What Vitamins Should I take? Interview with Dr. Nuzum

November 12, 2018by Reena0

Is Your Vitamin Helping you or Harming You? Dr. Nuzum reveals all!
If you take vitamins or supplements  then this is a video you must watch! Don’t take another supplement without knowing whether its helping you or harming you


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Dr. Nuzum’s story is unique. He grew up in a family of naturopaths and was the only biological son to Scott and Joanne Nuzum. Daniel was just seven years old when his parents started adopting children, and they didn’t stop until thirty-two children had found a happy and healthy home! Throughout the time of these adoptions, his parents cared for many children with special needs. The experience of witnessing, as well as assisting with the care of, the various challenging needs of his siblings provided the ultimate inspiration for his future career and sparked his passion for giving back and healing through natural techniques.

Dr. Nuzum received his license to practice natural medicine at the age of 20, becoming the youngest licensed naturopath in U.S. history at that time. His path has taken him outside of the country for work on many occasions. In Mexico, he worked in numerous cities and towns with different tribes. He has also served as a professor, sharing his knowledge by traveling throughout North America, South America and the Caribbean.

His passion for healing the body via natural properties led him to formulate supplements for those looking to find their way back to health and increase their “Vitality for Life.” With 17 years of formulation experience, Dr Nuzum brought his line of products to life in 2008. His line specializes in his high quality, proprietary formulation of fulvic acid- a compound that’s being depleted in our foods today and is necessary for proper nutritient absorption and toxin elimination. After researching this compound for years, Dr Nuzum has become one of the leading experts and educators in his field. His passion for staying on the cutting edge of product development led him to develop Dr Nuzum’s Nutraceuticals.


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Reena :                 Hey guys, it’s Reena Jadhav and today is all about multivitamins and supplements. Hi, Dr Nuzum. Welcome. Thanks for having me. And Dr. Nuzum is going to answer every question that I in you have ever had about our supplements. Why? Because it’s a multibillion dollar industry, so many people having it. So I know you’re having one, whether it’s a multivitamin or something specific, like a weight loss supplement or a long hair or supplement or a skin supplement, you know, name it, there’s supplements course. Every woman that’s pregnant just put on a supplement. So I know you’ve had one and I know you’re going to want to listen to this because we’re going to dive deep into the essence of the most important thing you put in your mouth probably every single day. Now, why? Dr. Nuzum, because he is a naturopathic physician, an osteopath, and as well as a doctor of oriental medicine. Uh, but what’s fascinating is that in fact he was the youngest physician to be licensed at the age of 20. Wow. Uh, Dr Nuzum has a website, Dr. Nuzum.com. Check it out for a lot of more stuff. And uh, of course he is one of the leading experts in educators in this field, but more importantly he’s done a ton of research on something called folic acid, which I think we’re going to dive into a little bit as well, but also just he is a formulator is that he’s a chief formulator for a brand called organics.

Reena:                  And so, you know, as, as you all know, when I interview folks, I actually like to try their stuff. So today’s interview is not about his supplements at all. It’s about the general state of the supplement industry as well as how these are done. Dr. Nuzum.

Dr. Nuzum:         Thank you very much. Glad to be here.

Reena :                 Oh our pleasure. So let’s start at the very basics. What exactly is a vitamin? And you were explaining this right before I hit record in a beautiful way.

Dr. Nuzum:         Vitamins that come from plants are byproducts of the photosynthesis prompt process, you know, so the plant goes through photosynthesis, grabs, know sunlight and mixes it with water and comes out with sugars and all these good things that we eat. Plants, right? Well, there are nutrients in the plants that are not mineral. Okay, so your minerals come from the soil, right? And they go from being a inorganic organized mineral that your body can’t use to a organic organized mineral that your body can use. So that’s the minerals in the plant, right? The other things that you have in there are polysaccharides, sugars, vitamins, phytochemicals, these other components there within the plant. What’s interesting is all the things that aren’t mineral are actually different configurations of captured sunlight. Okay. So vitamins are, you know, different configurations of captured sunlight that the plant has metabolized and created for us.

Dr. Nuzum:         And, and so, so vitamins from, from a plant source are they bring the light back in your body. It’s amazing. They, actually restore the what’s missing within the system? Well, the downside on this is that not all, not all supplements are made of plant based materials that, okay, they’re not extracting, they’re not taking these vitamins out of, out of plants that have, you know, fruits and vegetables or plants. Right? And in those cases, what’s happening is they’re synthesizing these things out of typically out of petroleum byproducts, which are very toxic. Okay? But you can in the lab synthesize these because they’re all vitamins are different, configurations are basically a sugar molecule. Okay. That is configured a little different. And so the column, some sugars in the lab, we’ll call them, but they’re basically a vitamin is a type of sugar, not like you know, not like that. You know, one of the things that would end our discussion earlier that you pointed out is correct, is that the more deficient someone is, the more they will be prone to craving sugar. Sugar cravings are actually a very big indicator that you are deficient in vitamin

Reena :                 and when you say vitamins you don’t mean this. You need your deficient. And the amazing basket, a fresh vegetables and fruits that nature provides us, which you’re not somehow getting enough which leads to these cravings. And of course I’m a huge sugar addict. Anyone who’s read any of my articles knows that, but sugar addiction is a huge issue, not just for me, but for a majority of Americans. To the point where they’re adding extra cigarette stuff just to make us eat more that look at these multivitamins, they’re meant to be really good, but you know what? They’re so sweet. I feel like I could eat them all day long and I think that’s the goal. Like, hey, how do we get her to eat some more of these so she can buy two bottles a month instead of one bottle a month, but the essence of that, so if you’re watching this and you’re got sugar issues like I do with Dr. Nuzum is telling us today is that that is a clear indication that you don’t have enough light in yourself and your body and what that really means is that you’ve got to bring in a lot more of the fresh fruits and vegetables and of course if you can’t, that’s when you go into supplements.

Reena :                 Am I right?

Dr. Nuzum:         Correct. That’s what supplements are. Supplementing what doesn’t occur in your diet. That’s what a supplement is for.

Reena :                 So let’s start with that. How do we know what’s missing in our diet?

Dr. Nuzum:         Well, if you’re eating the standard American diet, it only supplies trace amounts of 17 essential vitamins and minerals that you need on a daily basis. Okay? Only 17. Okay. Now, depending on which scale you use, there’s between 73 in 90 essential nutrients that you need on a daily basis. Okay? So if you’re eating the standard American diet, you’re only getting 17 of those, so you’re somewhere between 22 down to maybe 17, 18 percent of the actual nutrients that you need on a daily basis if you’re eating a standard American diet. So,

Dr. Nuzum        and how many do we need? So 17 is what I’m getting. How many do I need?

Dr. Nuzum:         You mean between 73 and 90?

Reena :                 Wow. I’m getting barely 20 percent of that.

Dr. Nuzum:         Right? Right. Exactly. So, um, let me give you an example. Okay. This is how I explain this to students in a, how I explain this to my patients. Let’s say we go to your car and we randomly remove 80 percent of the nuts and bolts from your car.

Dr. Nuzum:         How? How fast do you think your car’s going to break down? Turn it off.

Dr. Nuzum:         You know, another analogy will, let’s say we’re going to fly to the someplace. Okay, we’re going to fly to Hawaii, right? Would you get on an airplane? That was where we randomly removed 80 percent of the nuts and bolts.

Dr. Nuzum:         Oh No, I wouldn’t get on the planet if you removed even 10 percent of them. Right? So

Dr. Nuzum:         if people are eating the standard American diet and that’s all they’re getting. Okay.

Dr. Nuzum:         Yeah. Why are we surprised when they get sick? Why is that? Because we’re told somehow we don’t mean nutrition and I don’t know how that gets into our psyche as the norm. And I can say this because I’ve had this conversation with my 19 year old around diet, you know, she’s in college and I say, did you get a good helping those fruits and veggies today? And I get these lol like at these texts at his elbow while they’re like, why are you laughing? This was not a joke. I am reminding you that caffeine, you know, three times a day does not constitute a diet. Um, you know, I get another lool like all caps, lol, lol to infinity. Mom Kinda goes away, but it’s a very, very critical point that you’re making that I’m jesting about, which is that even to me, you know, you know, are going to be a wharton Undergrad and all my life I just kinda thought, you know, I can have just a cup of tea in the morning with some cookies and I can have, you know, just a sandwich at lunch and oh my God, how healthy am I?

Reena :                 Am having a sandwich, you know, some more kind of crappy pizza or something for dinner. And I thought that was doing really well because my pizza had some veggies on it. Uh, we have lost understanding what a good diet means. So share with everyone what should a non standard American diet look like that would allow us to incorporate the seventies or so vitamins and minerals.

Dr. Nuzum:         Well, first off, here’s the problem. A big issue, okay. If you’re not eating organic food, number one, the, the chances of you eating gmo product, I don’t even call it food. This product is a product. It’s something a genetically modified organism. It’s not a real plant. Your chances of getting a gmo product in your diet or extremely high. Okay, so you’re, you’re very probable of getting GMO foods, if you will, in your food chain. If you’re not eating organic food. An issue that is not publicized with GMO product is that GMO product cause your body to. They train your body to absorb less and less. Fewer and fewer nutrients. Okay, so a, a, a GMO plant can only absorb between 11 and 17 to 18 nutrients from the soil. Okay? There are, there’s 105 elements on the periodic table by the way. And so 11 that to anything in the teens is nowhere even close to what that plant should have in it.

Dr. Nuzum:         So if you’re, you’re, if you’re not eating organic food as my point is, if you’re not eating organic food, the chances of you getting a GMO product in your food chain as a really high number one. Number two, we have in, in our food chain, things are so processed. This was a, we had a professor, one of the nature of private colleges. I used to be a professor at. Uh, he was the, he was the nutrition professor in his, uh, uh, he would come in to the first class, the for the, uh, uh, the freshmen when they really started, uh, he put, you know, the soup is good food soup cans out on his, his death in what he would do is you would tell liver won the, uh, the history of that can, how it came into being and know what the contents, where they came from, how that all arrived. Okay. So this, the soup that you would go get, you’re supposed to go get when you have a cold, right? This chicken, right? Campbell’s chicken noodle.

Dr. Nuzum:         I’m like, okay. So 80 percent of what is in that Ken was grown on foreign soil where there’s no EPA in under contracts with big multinational companies that are, you know, the manufacturers of things like roundup and those types of things. And so these foods, these, this crop that is being a picked or grown and then picked to be utilized to make the constituents in the soup can, um, started off as this gmo crop sprayed with who knows what, you know, there, there are lots of companies, countries out there that still use ddt and it comes into our food chain via offshore, offshore, uh, uh, farming practices. So, you know, that’s still in our food chain because of that. Okay. It’s these GMO fields that they’re using these things on. So you get 80 percent of what’s in the canned, started out as GMO product.

Dr. Nuzum:         Um, they pick the, the, the vegetables, the fruits or whatever it is that they’re going to put in the early so that they can make the truck ride from the, the heartland to the coast so they can be sent here when they arrived to the United States. These fruits and vegetables are then radiated to kill off any bugs that they might. We’re running through a microwave once they get here, which denatures any nutrients that they had to begin with, which they didn’t come with very much nutrients to begin with, one that’s a GMO, which doesn’t absorb much nutrients from the soil to begin with, to even a GMO product. If you pick the the fruit or the vegetable too soon, it didn’t ripen. Therefore it never got the full extent of the nutrients was supposed to have the little amount that it could have had and didn’t yet. Then they send it in the truck to the boat from the boat to the dock and the dock. They send it through the microwave, at which point it sends off to the processing plant where they removed 90 percent of any nutrients.

Reena :                 Nothing, nothing. At that point, it just doesn’t matter what you do,

Dr. Nuzum:         and then they put it through this whole cooking process and they removed basically all nutrients that it may have ever had. They take that soup in the petroleum least tin lead can send it off to your grocery store and charge you for it.

Reena :                 They tell you when they tell you that you’re going to get better. Oh yes. How this soup is going to heal that cold

Dr. Nuzum:         or it’s going to suppress your immune system so much so that your immune system just can’t fight anymore and you don’t have any symptoms.

Dr. Nuzum:         The dead cat bounce at some point where they were so far overworked that they just shut down and so you’re right. You just shut your immune system down. You’ll have no symptom symptoms. Oh my God. Oh my God. So, so the biggest challenge we face today as you’re describing is the fact that eating for nutrients is close to impossible. If you’re not crazy mindful about where you shop. So a little plug for all the farmers markets nationwide. That’s what I do every Saturday, rain, snow, shine, whatever. I’m at the farmer’s market and I’m, I’m, as some of the doctors who’ve written fun books, said, you know, I’m smelling the produce. I’m touching the produce. Very good on my body. I’m like, come to me. Microbes come to me. My gut was such a mess. I was told it would take me five years to, to heal my gut, so, so I know I’m only like two and a half years into a five year process of rebuilding my rain forest inside.

Reena :                 Would that said, so my question was, you know, what kind of a diet would you need to be on? And I think the first answer is you need to be on a diet where you’re eating organic, locally farmed, locally sourced produce which is bought on the weekends because it was picked to yesterday and I always ask, you know, even in the farmer’s market, you have the organic stalls and you have the nonorganic and I’ll, you know, go to the organic farms. And I always ask when was this pit? And they will carry stuff which is not picked yesterday. They’ll be like, oh, that’s been sitting there, you couple of weeks. Okay, well I will skip that today. I’m just show me what you picked yesterday by your hands. And that’s what I’m eating today. And, and yes, for those who are rolling their eyes going, Jeez, she’s a little nutty. And by the way, that’s a lot more expensive. Yeah. So my, my grocery bill instead of, I don’t know, 30 bucks will be 35 bucks, you know, do I think it’s worth paying the extra five bucks? Heck yeah.

Dr. Nuzum:         Here’s another statistic that the leading cause of bankruptcy in our country is medical bills,

Reena :                 nail and time and all those cliches and sayings your age.

Dr. Nuzum:         So you will pay in your health and your wealth or you can pay in your wealth. Yeah. That’s our options. Really. We can pay with our time, our well being, our health being sick and then have to pay the doctor anyways. Yeah. In the hospital, in the ambulance and the every other thing you know, in or we can pay with our wealth to prevent this from happening and build our health, make ourselves stronger and healthier. Um, here’s the thing with the. This is something I got out of Oriental Medicine Studying Oriental medicine was that in order to become chronically ill, a person’s ability to adapt has to break down. Yeah. Okay. And if, if you, if your ability to adapt doesn’t break down, then you will bounce out of the illness at some point. It won’t take so long. If you’re ill and you’ve been ill for a long time and it just seems to drag on and on it, and your symptoms just never really go away is because your capacity to adapt in your ability to adapt has been broken.

Dr. Nuzum:         Okay? What happens once you can’t adapt anymore, you don’t adapt efficiently anymore. At that point, your body, instead of adapting to a situation and overcoming it, okay? It accommodates that. Okay? So it accommodates distress. It accommodates the toxicity, it accommodates the infection, it accommodates, you name it. In. So in natural medicine, our whole job in natural medicine is to restore that capacity to adapt it. It really comes down to that. That’s really the bottom line. That’s everything we do has to be aimed at restoring that capacity to adapt. And that’s you. You take young, young mothers like yourself. You take a people

Dr. Nuzum:         you know, going to school, holding down a job, raising a family, oh, you’re running a business is so demanding. It is so it extracts so much from you that if you’re not putting back in you is like a bank account. You’re born with a million bucks, but if you write a thousand dollar check every day and don’t put anything back in, you’re going to run out of money. That’s what we all are. Four hundred million Americans that are basically bankrupt health-wise. Yup, exactly. That’s a beautiful analogy and I hope that this is helping those who are listening and watching sort of really internalized where the breakdown begins because that’s the other issue. You know, when I got sick, I was like, how could this happen to me? What is happening? My Body’s letting me down and I not for a moment did I think, what have I been doing to my body that I have brought it to the stage where it’s finally just quit on me, you know, 28 symptoms.

Reena :                 A lot of symptoms was. My body was like, I’m basically a done with you. You’re a moron. You just don’t know how to take care of me. And um, and so I think you’re a, you know, very, you know, in a beautiful way articulating that it really is a debit credit. And so we are told to eat, I don’t know, what is it, six to seven servings of like this much of fruits and vegetables. What do you think is actually the real number of fruits and vegetables we should be eating on a daily basis? What, here’s what I do with patients when I get them started. This is the basic because here’s the thing, the worst possible thing for you to do is try to change everything at one time. That will bring.

Dr. Nuzum:         It’s not happening. No, no, no, don’t do that because that will, that will bring you to failure. That’s just terrible. Don’t do that. And so, um, I’ve been in practice for 24 years. So in those 24 years, what I’ve found is that working with patients, taking them not necessarily in baby steps, but the titanic is heading straight for an iceberg and if we don’t start turning, it is going to run into an iceberg is destined to happen. So we can change that trajectory. But we have to start with definite changes that start offsetting the course. We’re going to change the course. Right? So, um, here’s what I have people start off. We have, let’s say three ounces of protein on your plate, three ounces of protein, and show us what three ounces looks like because I doubt

Dr. Nuzum:         I have, I never had to use a, a, a catcher’s Mitt. I have these ginormous. If you say you were going to eat a piece of meat, you have a piece of meat. If you were to have a piece of meat three times a day, you take your fist, you’d have to. About half of your fist would be the amount of meat that you could handle consuming three times a day. Interesting. Okay. So okay, because your fist proportionate to your stomach. And so you’re about half the size of your fist would be about the amount of meat. Okay. So if that’s the amount of meat that you have, you want to have about the same amount of starch, which would be a sweet potato or, or in any kind of starts. Okay. I’m going to have about the same amount of a fruit, anyone to have twice as much of a vegetable, vegetables on your plate, starchy vegetables, non starchy vegetables, green leafy salad type thing, you know?

Dr. Nuzum:         Right, right. Get some in, in as much variety as possible. That’s colors, colors, colors, note. Remember what I said about the, the. Okay, so the, the colors and vegetables. Here’s a whole fruits and vegetables. Your, a whole nother thing. Those, those proanthocyanidins, the polysaccharides as those phytochemicals that, uh, that are your pigments are your protections, quote unquote. Okay. The most powerful forms of antioxidants that we have in our food chain, their natural pigments in the, uh, okay. What, what makes a great red or purple is a thing called proanthocyanidins. You’ll also find that that’s the, the redness that comes out in a red wine from the grapes. It’s also in the appeal of a red apple. It’s okay. The okay the, it’s in. Find it and read papers. Read the Red Peppers or pomegranate, pomegranate or in between or all these different vegetables and fruits have these pigments.

Dr. Nuzum:         Pigments are the most powerful antioxidants that that we can consume. Okay? I mean, we’re talking multiple thousands of times more powerful than vitamin C, not percent. We’re talking thousands of times more in, uh, when you, when we’re consuming these things, all of those, all of those colors are concentrations of different spectrums of light. Okay? I know that my sound totally weird, but from the physics now you’re right, it is just like what’s happening, right? So yellow light color is light, different light in the food and so you want to have as many of these as possible. I’m never gonna see food again the same way. Dr. Newsletter, I’m going to look at that pomegranate that’s sitting on my kitchen going, you are so full of light. You have changed how I look at first and vetch anything with color. Sorry. Please continue. But it’s true. This is, you know, it’s really simple when you think about it, the basics of, of all these different medical things that we tend to discuss and everything.

Dr. Nuzum:         I get on a lot of interviews like this and we’re talking medical situations, medical, this, medical that. But honestly, the, the processes, the basic processes that we have to work with, very simple, very, very simple. It’s so I got the plate, we’ve got this much protein, this much, this much of fruit and twice of the non starchy veggies and that’s a meal to meal your meal and you want to have asked many colors and you want to have it’s seasonal. Right? Exactly. Exactly. And starting off of that is super simple. Yeah, template a, you’re not going to go hungry, you know, none of us is going to start looking at me. No one is starting from very long day. We’ll be fine. We’ll be fine. You know, that gives you a template. It’s a template. It’s not perfect. You know, you talked to any nutritionist notes, but is way better than the standard American diet. You can start there, you can get better from there, but you have to have a starting point. And so we have no brains, no grains. Grains could be, could be your starch, you may have. So instead of the sweet potato, you could have wild rice, wild rice beans or kidney beans. I got it. So that’s the substitute. Sure. Sure, exactly. Exactly. So you know, other things that could be in there. Um, I, I, I have lumped lagoons as starches personally. They are, they’re heavy on star search. That’s why the cost, you know, it’s, it’s still candidate chickpeas and kidney beans. You’re missing herbs as well. To what extent do you consider those to be sort of a priority as opposed optional?

Dr. Nuzum:         They are. Herbs are the nutrition of your diet. Okay, that’s weird. That’s concentrated nutrition from A. Okay, let me, we’ll talk botanical medicine real quick. Or is plant medicine? All right? So, uh, you have your typically your leaf herbs. Okay. Uh, are things that you could consume more consistently in the, the medicine in those typically isn’t quite as potent. Okay. So you can do it every day for long periods of time. Right? I’m generalizing you real quick here. So now we have, that’s the leaf. Now let’s go to a flower. A flower may have, you know, some medicinal properties, but it’s very gentle and that’s something, again, that you could consume very consistently and never really run into any trouble. Um, you get into bark. Okay. Now the, the, the, the medicinal properties. Step it up a notch. Like sentiment is a great example. Yeah. Cinnamon, so that steps it up a notch.

Dr. Nuzum:         Okay. So Parsley. Excellent, excellent medicine. Parsley is actually my favorite gout remedy by the way. And I’ll let everybody have that one. That one’s a, uh, two to three ounces of fresh parsley a day normally knocks out of the ballpark. It’s super simple. Typically cost you about a dollar a day. Unbelievable. You know, drinking the water or you actually just blending it in and take lending it, eating it. I even have a, I’ve had one, uh, one patient here recently. He just, uh, he scrambled eggs with his bunch of parsley every morning. He just ate it that way in two days. It was 48 hours. His guilt was gone. It was a pretty incredible, super ridiculously simple remedy in is right there. Most people have it on their plate and they throw it away.

Reena :                 Yes. It’s meant to be tossed away on top of a state. So we’ve got a sense of how to eat now. Clearly no one’s doing that, we know that and it’s, it’s hard. So everyone goes into supplements, so let’s talk about the entire chain of vitamin. How has a vitamin get produced? So you’re a formulator in, in really quickly and briefly and then kind of laypersons lingo. How do you formulate a vitamin so you know, for something like m seven m as an example or the metroplex talk very briefly, you know, how do you decide to what to put on it? Where do you guys source, where do vitamin companies, source materials, how does it get put in, and then how do I as a consumer know which brand to buy it? There are so many brands, there’s thousands of brands and everybody touts these days over natural, we’re all natural and then you look at ingredients and there’s all kinds of crap in there. So what brands, you know, eventually we’ll talk about kind of what brands, et Cetera, but let’s just start first with how does a vitamin gift made? First off

Dr. Nuzum:         we would do, is looking at, if you came to me, this whole on a line of supplements, these supplements to do would be our first question. Okay, well I want to, you know, on a prenatal vitamin I went to a sport vitamin I went, uh, no children, children’s vitamin or something like that. Real basic. Um, so there are, there are guidelines as to what a multivitamin is, can be. Okay. So you have some parameters that were, that are our guidelines. We actually have parameters that we have to operate within

Dr. Nuzum:         in order to call it a multivitamin. So now that we know that you do this for a living, tell us a secret. What vitamin would you not put in your mouth or give your kids because of where it’s sourced? So one of the worst countries for sourcing ingredients and so that we all can look at a multivitamin and say, ah, that’s not going in my mouth because it says the ingredients here.

Dr. Nuzum:         This is really sad. Um, I’m a doctor of oriental medicine, studied Chinese medicines, studied Taiwanese medicine, Japanese medicine. Uh, but I wouldn’t buy anything from over there.

Reena :                 Got It, so even though there’s tons of good stuff that comes from China and they claim it’s organic because God knows I went through that. I mean part of my healing was acupuncture and every acupuncture therapist would give me a whole bunch of pills. Half of them are still lying in my kitchen. But you’re saying it doesn’t matter that it says organic, don’t touch it?

Dr. Nuzum:         No, most of the. We actually have in our group and our formulating group, we have a, we have two scientists that they actually test all ingredients that come into our lab before we ever do anything with it. It actually has to stay in quarantine for two weeks and we do testing on it for two weeks before we, before we accept it, we turn away four times more raw materials than we actually use.

Reena :                 Wow. Wow. So China, would you give me an idea? Yeah. And would you put India in there too?

Dr. Nuzum:         In India is what’s interesting. Um,

Dr. Nuzum:         India has far better technology

Dr. Nuzum:         than China. Oh, it’s good to know. And I’m not kidding you, they, they actually surpass China technologically by far tech. Now China has a larger workforce, the have more working capital at the moment, you know, but technologically, and um, I would say in your working practices, India’s far better.

Reena :                 So if the product comes in, stays in quarantine, you then get a bunch of people testing it through,

Speaker 3:           right? It has to be exactly what, what we asked for, which is not always the case. Sometimes you order to recondition and they send you something else and quality control issues, that’s definitely. Or they’ll send you mostly a combination. The rest of it’s sand, you know, that does happen periodically and it’s amazing what a, what it’s way more regulated within the United States. But there are, like I said, most of your South American countries have a pretty good standards with, with their, the other production and everything. And they. One thing is that they don’t have the money to put the pesticides and herbicides on the crop and it’s still contrary to their thought process. You know, why would you put poison on your food?

Reena :                 Everybody’s thought process. I hate to say that, but it’s contrary to every thought process, unless it’s profit over people. So to me, the only time it makes sense is when you’re talking about yields in a way that allows you to maximize profit, you know, sort of a ringing that last dollar out and at that point it’s not about the health and wellness of anybody, it’s just about what can I do to maximize profit out of this. And that’s really what we’re living in. So, so you’ve got these products, now they’re processed and then your formulation comes in, right? You’ve articulated the ratio or

Dr. Nuzum:         our recipe, you know, Kinda like your cookie recipe. We make a recipe and we have to take and blend that recipe if, you know, if there’s multiple ingredients, we have to blend them, we have to test to make sure that when, once they’re blended, we didn’t damage anything, which is another thing we do. What we actually specialize in is a delivery systems. And so that’s where the fulvic and humic acids and all those types of things, that’s where all that comes in is uh, you know, so if you’re, let’s say you have an herbal supplement, this bark and roots, okay, cinnamon bark in, you know? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Turmeric root, something like that. So you got ginger and so these are those ingredients. Need a different delivery system then if you came over and took asparagus and Cilantro.

Dr. Nuzum:         Okay, got it. Again, so the, the chemistry is totally different in. So what we’ll deliver, you know, the ingredients out of asparagus and Cilantro. I won’t necessarily deliver tumeric and cinnamon. Okay. And so we have to tool, I use the word tool or tweak systems for whatever it is that we’re trying to put into the body in a. So that’s something that we do a lot of work with, but typically you take your, your mix where you have to test your end product, make sure that it isn’t a, nothing got damaged in the processing process, you know, uh, you have your, if it goes into a capsule or a tablet or a liquid at that point you have to, you know, do the appropriate things. Sometimes a, a liquid, sometimes the liquid has to go in a hot model so that it doesn’t ferment while it’s in the bottle. Other things don’t ferment is easy and so on, so forth. So it’s, there’s a lot to it, a lot that goes into all of that and it’s not just throwing ingredients into a vat and hoping something good comes out.

Reena :                 Which companies do you trust? Who, other than obviously organics do you believe actually does everything that’s needed to create a vitamin that actually can be absorbed and deliver the results versus becoming, as they say, expensive urine?

Dr. Nuzum:         I have a few. I have a few that I work with. I have, um, well obviously Dr [inaudible] Dot Com. Then organics. I’m also microbe formulas is another company I worked real closely with. They’re, they’re a good company. Really good company. A very, very high quality, you know, quality controls are excellent. Um, I like life extension. Oh, I like that brand. They’re very good. Piers is good. They’re good. Um, I’m not real keen on a nutrient isolates. Okay. So I’m not real big on taking thiamine, Riboflavin B, one, b two, b, three B, six b, 12 all separately. Um, there’s

Dr. Nuzum:         formulation.

Dr. Nuzum:         Yes. I’m a synergist. I like synergy. I see more toxical toxicological problems. Okay. They, they ended up with more toxicity issues when they’re taking, you know, zinc, copper, magnesium, calcium, b12, vitamin B, you know, all these individual, uh, individual nutrients and they spend a lot of money in. Don’t feel any better. That’s a, that’s something I see a, I’ve watched that clinically for years in a, you know, what are the things that, uh, I’ve been told over and over and over and over and over again is that, uh, once patients started working with me, it actually was less expensive to pay my fee, you know, to, as, as their doctor, as their consultant and things like that and purchase the more expensive supplements that I had them on. They actually were, we’re spending less money every month doing that. Then they were buying, you know, gobs and gobs of other things that they didn’t feel any better. That’s unfortunately, that is, that is extremely common.

Reena :                 So let’s talk about toxicology because there’s, these news releases often get shut down because of course, or media is very, very good at not releasing information that might be done for Bentall to commercial practices. So you know how many people die of kidney issues because of taking some supplement isn’t something that gets reported as widely as it probably should versus the supplements that tout some benefit for those get widely promoted. So at what point should someone start worrying about overloading their organs because they’re taking way too many supplements and slash or are taking toxic supplements. So how do I as a consumer be wary and be informed?

Dr. Nuzum:         My goodness. One would be, would be to look at with your, with different brands. I’m trying to, because I’m on the backside for this, how do I tell somebody on the other side of the counter, you know, looking at companies whether they have testing or whether the are the proprietary, do the, are they open about their ingredients? You know, I have a lot of proprietary blends myself. I will give you all the ingredients. I won’t tell you that

Dr. Nuzum:         the amounts of the ratios, right? But how do we even believe that what they’re saying is in it as in it. I know there’s a couple of labs, there’s a couple of websites that have started that are testing lab door. I think

Dr. Nuzum:         Mike Adams, the health ranger, he’s, you know, you could send, if you have a, you have, something’s questionable, you can send it to him. He has a fee, but you’ll getting tested for you. That would be a third party thing. That would be excellent. If you’re concerned, uh, you know about the cleanliness or the quality of your, your product, that would be definitely, definitely to go there. I’m number one. Number two, if you’re taking more than 10 supplements, you’re probably taking to make it be. If you have 10 different bottles on your, on your counter top, you, I wouldn’t take more than 10

Reena :                 to my.

Dr. Nuzum:         The thing is I, you know, I’ve, you’re working with patients for a long time and they come in, I’ve had patients come in with garbage bag fulls of supplements that they’re taking. It will read a in. There is such thing as too much of a good thing. You know. And the beautiful thing about it is once you stopped taking in too many supplements, any damage that was done starts to correct itself almost immediately is it’s kind of like how long does the body take to reverse the damage? Depends on how, how bad the damage was.

Reena :                 So if you’ve been taking vitamins for a year, how long would it take?

Dr. Nuzum:         A month? Maybe it shouldn’t take very long. No. You know, it’s, it’s years of, of hyper dosage, you know, that uh, uh, you know, even people use, we do, we call it the vitamin C flush is something we do in some of our detox programs in. You start off with 3000 milligrams of vitamin C when you first wake up in the morning and you add another thousand every hour until it moves your bowels in. That’s okay to do every once in a while. You don’t do that every day that every day. That’s not good. Okay. But it’s no different than, you know, maybe a glass of wine every day isn’t going to hurt you. But a bottle of wine everyday has consequences. You know, not the, not the wines bed, but it’s most related, you know, in certain when you’re consuming individual nutrients, okay? Uh, if their ratios aren’t where they be for your

Dr. Nuzum:         individual physiology, the, the chances of you creating other nutritional deficiencies increase. So you take calcium because let’s say years in your fifties and your need calcium, right?

Reena :                 The doctor said you need an event or a dairy,

Dr. Nuzum:         so you start taking a thousand milligrams of calcium every day. Well, in that pond of nutrients in your body, you’re just threw a huge boulder out there and you’re making major waves in. It’s going to offset all of those other nutrients because all you’re doing is taking one nutrient in needs. Seventy some of these nutrients. So it goes back to whole food, nutrients, whole food nutrition is really where it’s at. And that’s, that’s what I practice. What I preach is what I do with patients. It’s, it’s the, uh, uh, that’s the way to go. You have to have whole food supplements our body. The other thing is if it’s something that’s synthetic, um, you know, if it’s a mineral key late, uh, it’ll say eight a e, t, r a, t e on the end of the might be good, nate, or theory or aspartate or you know, as you know, can be a, there’s all kinds of things that is, that was chemically created. It’s not a naturally occurring compound.

Reena :                 Oh, that’s such a good advice from the 18th.

Dr. Nuzum:         They’re better than the iron. If you take calcium chloride, that’s actually very dangerous cause all kinds of problems. Calcium carbonate. Okay. Yeah. That, that’s fairly benign. Um, but taking large amounts of either would it be detrimental, especially if you’re taking a by itself. And so smaller doses, wider range of nutrients is far far better in your chances of a, of toxicity. Go down to almost nothing, number one. And number two, your synergy. Okay? Because in, you know, if you eat a stalk of Celery, you’re getting 70 some nutrients in that stock or sell. They’re designed to be in there.

Reena :                 That’s synergistic with Jeunesse way that your body can absorb. So juicing is one of my favorite ways to actually take a multivitamin. It’s like, oh, a bunch of veggies in my angel masticating juicer. And uh, just gobble, gobble it down, chase it down with something yummy after just I don’t choose fruits, veggies. Um, you know, like a multivitamin.

Reena :                 It’s exactly, exactly, exactly. It’s a way to get calcium from Broccoli, Broccoli. Oh yeah, that’s excellent source. Broccoli. All your leafy vegetables, your Greens have have calcium in it. They also are going to have a high amount of magnesium and more people are magnesium deficient than there are calcium deficient. Most people that have osteoporosis have plenty of calcium in their body. They don’t have enough magnesium or vitamin D three to manage the calcium

Reena:                  that’s back to. There’s so much fake news around calcium and osteoporosis. Thank you for sharing that. So if you have osteoporosis or get worried about osteoporosis, Dr. Nuzum share again, what is the exact formulation they should be having

Dr. Nuzum:         about the same amount of calcium, magnesium on, on a daily basis. They’re also need large amounts, not the 400 units a day of Vitamin D. three typically in the 2000 to 5,000 unit range, two to actually get the minerals into their bones, takes a lot more. It takes a lot more of the vitamin D, three d to get that done.

Reena :                 So we’re going to talk very briefly about how do you make sure that these vitamins are eating actually get to the cells because that’s, you mentioned a lot of people will take these vitamins and they say and nothing happens and we’ve read a lot of articles that talk about, oh, multivitamins are just, you’re just flushing money down your toilet. And for a lot of people that is actually true because the multivitamin may not be formulated in a way that your body can absorb. So for a variety of reasons. So can you share what are some of the reasons that our body doesn’t absorb? And then for those people, what do you recommend in terms of channel or delivery?

Dr. Nuzum:         The largest patient I ever treated with over 640 pounds. He was an enormous man. His business was the, uh, you know, the portable Porta potty business is when he called, you know, the construction site, you know, the portable toilet at some events, public events and whatnot. He had those, he rented those out. That’s what he doubled his business was he came to see me for some issues and no had this workup for him when he’s like, well, I’m not taking that stuff. No. Well, why not? He said, well, those are vitamins, aren’t they? Yes, of spiteful. I didn’t take it. That stuff that doesn’t work. I said, well, what makes. Okay, so where are you coming from here? And he said, I’ll tell you what, um, this weekend you come out to my yard and we’ll, we’ll have a discussion. So I met with them, uh, went out to his yard where they clean the, uh, the portable toilets and he had mountains like 15 or 20 mountains of one a day.

Dr. Nuzum:         Vitamins that still had the, you know, you could go through, you know, and they still had their names written across. It was terrible. And he’s like, you know, so I took him back, you know, had them come back in to the office and we took each one of the, uh, the, the capsules and tablets that he was going to be taking in. We took a four ounces of distilled water, one teaspoon of apple cider vinegar, mixed that up, drop the capsule in there. If it didn’t disperse in, in, you know, it didn’t open up and dispersed as the tablet didn’t fall apart in that solution. It probably wouldn’t in your stomach either.

Dr. Nuzum:         So that was a real simple, easy to, in everything that I gave him, did you know, it did fall apart in that solution. So that’s, that tells you the, the, you know, the capacity of the, the tablet or the capsule to disperse in your, in your gut. So if it doesn’t break down, it is not, you’re not gonna absorb anything out of it, you know, clearly looking at a kind of a vitamin bottle, looking on the back, what am I looking for to know whether this thing’s going to actually open up versus for example, gummies. Sure. About linguals versus sprays that I rub. I’ve got a spray, I’ve got some gummies, although all of those are going to be pretty quick absorbed. I there. They’ll hit your, your bloodstream pretty quick. The anything that’s transdermal that goes on your skin will be in your bloodstream. Typically in about 30 seconds in, most things are designed to penetrate through the skin. That fast I’m sublinguals might take about 90 to 90 seconds to two minutes for something to hit the bloodstream. When you’re doing like a gummy gummy absorbs just as fast as fast as the sugar absorbs.

Reena :                 Gut dysbiosis, dysbiosis and the integrative doctor said to me, sweetheart, you can keep doubting all those vitamins. Your gut doesn’t have capacity to absorb, so

Dr. Nuzum:         she’s the one that put me on the initially the transdermals and said, as far as you can put rub stuff on you

Dr. Nuzum:         when you get into tablets and capsules, no tablet technology has really improved. There’s a, you know, when I first started years ago, tablets were terrible. So many binders. If you had to have like an excess of stomach acid db and start breaking things down, there were terrible. Now now they have their tablets that start to dissolve almost as well as the gel capsule in. So those are, those are things, something that has lots of binders, lots of a inert ingredients typically isn’t, that’s not as high quality. Um, so if you’re looking at the label in the back, you looked down at the bottom and the inactive ingredients are the inert ingredients. Those, there’s a lot of those. Then there’s a lot of binders. There’s a lot of things in that

Reena :                 that’s better liquid, absorbed faster liquids are better gummies or batter sprays or battery sublinguals or better than the tablets typically. And then in the tablet you’re looking for what is it, what are the ingredients in terms of beyond the vitamins and minerals, what the composition is. And if you’re got a lot of binders and stuff like that, there’s often things like magnesium, but all the stuff in there and the list of ingredients

Dr. Nuzum:         that are inactive ingredients are close to the number of ingredients in your supplement. Not so good.

Reena :                 I would say even 50 percent. I mean, if, if, if 50 percent or binders, you probably should still toss it because that just doesn’t sound good.

Dr. Nuzum:         It’s not going to be very effective in. Especially again, we go back to, like you said, with the Gut dysbiosis, uh, you know, you have a hard time absorbing even

Reena :                 it’s been there, felt what time of the day with or without food, there’s all kinds of information on what is the best time of the day to have a typically, um,

Dr. Nuzum:         typically before breakfast and before dinner, or typically about 12 hours apart for a vitamin. If you’re taking vitamins, those are the typical best. This time is the day to take it. A lot of times you don’t want to take them too late at night

Dr. Nuzum:         because they can stimulate your mitochondria. You do that, you’re going to be up at night. You take them, uh, some people, uh, in particular with b vitamins, b vitamins, upset people’s stomach pretty consistently. And so you, if that’s the case, you want to find something that has a lower dose of the b vitamins in. You may want to take that with food that, that could be a

Reena :                 otherwise you can take without food. I think what I’m hearing you say is the best way is just fine, and she, I read that I believe, or anyone who does herbs or herbal remedies typically says you shouldn’t take anything more than three months. And then you want to pause. So talk a little bit about that. Does that rule apply to multivitamins and pause.

Dr. Nuzum:         That rule applies to everything. In my opinion, the, uh, it was an interesting thing. Let’s say. Let’s say you start a Vegan diet today. You stay on that strictly for 90 days, uh, between day 90 and 95. That will go from being very health health, healthy health, promoting to, you’ll start having allergic responses to almost everything that you’ve been eating for the last 90 days. Now let’s say you switch to a ketogenic diet in you. You did that for 90 days. You’d be fine for those 90 days. You’re somewhere between 90 and 95 days. You’ll start having reactions to the food that you’ve been eating. Um, my opinion is just my personal belief. We, uh, there was this big flood in our history and some guy in a boat was all that happened, you know, in a, that was about 5,000 years ago for the last 5,000 years. We’ve had four seasons in our bodies are accustomed to eating per four seasons, which happened to last, right around 90 days.

Reena :                 I think you are absolutely right. That’s, that’s, that’s the microbiotic diet. Correct.

Dr. Nuzum:         From a microbiome standpoint and from a standpoint of, of healing chronic issues, you’re far better eating, you know, for two weeks, eating a ton of raspberries. It’s going months without them and then have a bunch of blueberries and then, you know what I’m saying? I have lots of cucumbers in your diet for a little while and you know, just our microbiome does much better with that in. Uh, okay. It’s, I usually I

Reena :                 didn’t know that. So that’s a microbiome thing you’re saying?

Dr. Nuzum:         Yes, yes. This is the microbiome thing. So if, if you rubbed your elbow on the table every day, three times a day for 90 days straight, you develop a callus. Right. Okay. So if you put the same three meals everyday on your microbiome, eventually they get callous to that. Okay. They start getting irritated by that. We call those food allergies.

Dr. Nuzum:         Oh my goodness. Really? Wow. Again, you know, you have such a brilliant way of sharing information with such a new lens that it’s easy to understand and it’s almost like a flexing to go. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I mean, what you just said actually makes perfect sense.

Dr. Nuzum:         Just a little different way of looking at it. But it’s the truth.

Dr. Nuzum:         It’s really simple. So food allergies, you’re, you’re making a case. Um, because of course I did a fit test again and it came back that I’m deeply allergic to cranberries. Go figure of course wheat and dairy and then, you know, next level down was wait for it. Apples, pears, oranges, bananas and spinach. And uh, I remember my doctor calling me and saying, this is the weirdest list of allergies I have ever seen an 80 buddy. I’ve never seen someone allergic to all fruits and vegetables. And of course it wasn’t all fruits and vegetables, but it was significant. Well, of course, because I’ve been living on fruits and vegetables for about two years and so to your point, um, that’s completely an unhealthy way of living even if you’re having fruits and veggies because you’ve got to switch it around 90 days. I’m going to try that

Dr. Nuzum:         little bit of rotation that I’m working on a diet plan. That’s a book I’m writing at the moment on, on this actual concept in theirs. Dr Tony Jimenez I think has just written a book. Yeah. I don’t know if he’s released it yet or not, but we’ve talked about it quite a bit and he has a book on this. It’s, you know, he’s had 30 years as an oncologist working with cancer patients and this is exactly the same. He’s come to the exact same conclusion. No, very interesting diet. You know, we put someone on a person, excellent. They do fantastic for three months. Then they start crashing. You know, why, why is that in? So we switch them to a Paleo Diet and all of a sudden they do great. Three months later they start, you know, the lab work starts getting worse. They start having fatigue and starting to have symptoms again and we see that and know Dr Rj a menace is seen that in the cancer clinics for life’s 30 in, uh, so it’s a different concept. It’s not new, it’s just very different to anything that’s being marketed at the moment.

Dr. Nuzum:         Well, let’s do this. Let’s do a bootcamp, right? Doctrine is zoom. We’re going to do a bootcamp that’s going to start as a 90 day bootcamp and it’s going to have, I mean, you know, all our boot camps or 14 day boot camps, those of you who are listening or watching that know this, but we’re going to make it into a 14 day bootcamp that continues for 90 days because it’s going to be the same meal plan. And then we’re going to switch it out every 90 days. So you have a fresh set of recipes based on the season and of course it’s all going to dovetail into the book that you’re working on and the your formulation. So I’m really super excited about this. Um, we, we could gab on forever. We’ve got so many more topics. I’m going to have Dr. Zoom back. We’re going to talk about infections and we’re going to talk about inflammation next. But um, for now Dr. Zoom, I want to thank you so much for your brilliant insights, for your dedication, for your commitment to helping get the truth out. So any last parting words on vitamins.

Dr. Nuzum:         Mega doses are great for short periods of time. You don’t need mega doses for long periods of time. Okay. So long periods of time or any, anything over and above. 14, 14 to 21 days. Mega dosing of vitamins. Um, we’ll start to be detrimental after about that time because you getting too much of a good thing. Okay. So if you’re taking a Multivitamin, I, I personally, it’s just me personally in with my children, I use things like organic greens from organics. That’s what we use as a multivitamin, quote unquote. Okay. It’s theirs. 90 some different fruits and vegetables in that, you know, it’s, you’re, you’re getting freeze dried. Jews have those organically grown fruits and vegetables in that. That’s just something that we use. This is, I’m not touting, this is just personally, this is what we do, there are, we’ll use a multivitamin for the ladies in the house, you know, right around that time of the month to offset, you know, different symptoms and whatnot, helps them make it through that without having know it being so stressful and their system, you know, and they don’t typically have to stay on that for a long period of time, but it’s okay.

Dr. Nuzum:         That’s just us personally in very healthy. We have very good diet, very healthy for a long time. Um, so that’s, I guess as an example, this is what I do personally,

Dr. Nuzum:         uh, in, you can do whatever you want. I really appreciate your sharing with us kind of what’s your personal routine as, as well. And I’m going to, I want to thank you so much for being here with us today. And for the rest of you, there are so many insights in here. If you’ve got gout, take parsley. Get out in the sun heats and fresh fruits and vegetables that you now know what your plate needs to look like. So if you loved this episode, please share, share it with your loved ones, with your friends family. Keep it a five star rating. Thank you. Because that’s what helps drive more people to watch it. And I’m going to see you smiling on another one of these episodes. I’ll talk to you soon. Stay smiling.



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