Book Summary “Autoimmune Fix” By Dr. Tom O’Bryan

December 6, 2018by Reena0

Book Summary “Autoimmune Fix” By Dr. Tom O’Bryan


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Dr. Thomas O’Bryan is an internationally recognized and sought-after speaker and workshop leader specializing in wheat, its impact on health, and the development of autoimmune diseases as they occur inside and outside of the intestines. In November 2016, Dr. O’Bryan released Betrayal: The Autoimmune Disease Solution They’re Not Telling You, an investigation into the global effects of issues underlying the autoimmune system and chronic disease. Over 500,000 people worldwide have watched the docuseries.

Dr. O’Bryan is considered a ‘Sherlock Holmes’ for chronic disease and metabolic disorders, teaching that the underlying mechanisms that trigger the development of chronic disease are the key to health. He holds teaching faculty positions with The Institute for Functional Medicine and the National University of Health Sciences. He has trained and certified tens of thousands of practitioners around the world in an advanced understanding of the impact of wheat sensitivity and the development of individual autoimmune diseases.

His 2016 groundbreaking book, The Autoimmune Fix, won the National Book Award and ranked first in several categories on Amazon. The book outlines the step-by-step development of degenerative diseases and gives us the tools to identify our disease process years before the symptoms are obvious.
Dr. O’Bryan is the founder of and the visionary behind The Gluten Summit: A Grain of Truth, which brings together 29 of the world’s experts on the gluten connection to diseases, disorders, and a wide range of symptoms. You can find out more at


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Reena Jadhav: Hey everyone it’s Reena Jadhav with the HealthBootcamps and this is the beginning of our multipart series on the autoimmune fix. And here is the amazing world leading Dr Tom O’bryan. Welcome Tom.

Dr. Tom: Thank you so much. It’s really a pleasure to be with you. Thank you.

Reena Jadhav:  This is truly an honor and for everyone out there that’s listening, my God, you are in for a treat. Dr Tom is such a fountain of Wisdom, brilliant insights and true understanding of health that you are truly an amazing hands over the next four to five series. So make sure you watch every single one of those. Okay, let’s get started. So this was part one and today we’re going to talk about what the heck is an autoimmune disease anyway and what are all the different names? It goes by Dr Tom, what’s auto immune?

Dr. Tom: The word autoimmune means that your immune system is attacking your own tissue like your thyroid or your brain or your bones or your muscles, and it’s always been considered to be a mistake of the immune system or the immune system gone wild, but we now know that’s not true. Mrs. Patient, your immune system is the armed forces in your body. It’s there to protect you. There’s an army and navy and air force and Marines, a Coast Guard, Iga, Igg, Ige, igm, all these technical parts of the immune system. They’re all there to protect you, so when you understand that it’s your immune system is protecting you. When it gets activated, the question is what’s it trying to protect you from so true? So when you go see a doctor and you’ve got symptoms and let’s say that you’re diagnosed with diabetes or with Hashimoto’s thyroid disease, it’s like you fallen over a waterfall into the pond below.

Dr. Tom: You know when you swim up to the surface and you’re trying to stay afloat in this pond of diabetes in this pond, have recurrent miscarriages or this pond of Hashimoto’s thyroid, you’re trying to stay afloat in the midst of all these symptoms so everybody’s looking for the life jacket so they could float because the water is so turbulent because the waterfall keeps falling into the water. You’re still living the life that created the problems you’ve got and you’re, you’re. You’re in this turbulent pond and the waterfall keeps coming in, so you want a life jacket with the least side effects possible, so a natural approach at first if you can, you always try and natural approach. If it doesn’t work, you take the drugs. Don’t be silly about this. You take the drugs so that you can stay afloat in the pond, but then you swim over to the side of the pond.

Dr. Tom: You get out of the water, you walk up the hill, you walked back up river and find out what fell in the river. They carried you down stream and eventually took you over the waterfall into the pond below. That’s called functional medicine and I’m on the Faculty of the Institute for Functional Medicine and we teach doctors how to do this, how to go back upstream. It’s called going upstream to figure out what happened to this person and I. I’d like to give you just one example if I can. Let’s say a woman comes in in her early thirties and she’s got gut symptoms and she’s diagnosed with an autoimmune disease like collitus and Colitis is an inflammation in itis of your colon, like burst site is conjunctivitis, is an inflammation in the eye. Arthritis is an inflammation in your joints. Cold light is is an inflammation of your colon, so she comes in and she’s fallen into the pond, have collitus with lots of gut symptoms and they do the tests and the doctor said, Oh, you’ve got colitis.

Dr. Tom: Take this drug or we have to do some surgery or so you try for the a life jacket with the least effects possible, but when you go back upstream you have to go back and you take a look, and this is true for any health condition, any health condition. You go back and in the questionnaires, if you do the right kind of questionnaires, how was your mother’s pregnancy with you? Was she on any medications? How was childbirth? Were you born by natural childbirth or by the Syrian section? Because here’s an example. We know in the last month of pregnancy, moms reproductive track, the vaginal track, the bacteria in the badge will track completely change and there’s a whole lot of a bacteria called Prevotella, which is really hard to even find any other time in the reproductive track, but in the last month of pregnancy, it’s dominant. There’s a whole lot of it.

Dr. Tom: Why? Because prevotella carries the DNA messages of the mammal that’s going to be feeding that baby, so when baby is born by natural childbirth and comes down to canal, baby is smothered in Prevotella and other good bacteria in the eyes and the nose and the mouth and the ears of the. All of the film the babies come up covered with. That’s all really good bacteria and that bacteria gets into baby’s digestive track and migrates down and says, okay, and it turns on the genes that says, okay baby, here’s the. Here’s the formula of the milk from the mammal that’s going to be feeding. You get these cells starting to make these digestive enzymes and let’s get these cells over here ready to go. Now, every baby at birth, it has severe intestinal permeability. It’s normal to have intestinal permeability at birth because when they’re inside the womb, they’re swimming in the soup of mom’s amnionic fluid.

Dr. Tom: You know, it’s just all this suit, so there’s no border, so I mean from the mouth and it goes into the bloodstream, everything, but at birth that natural childbirth, the bacteria will give the message to turn the genes on the baby’s gut that says, closed down those tight junctions. Now you don’t need to have a leaky gut anymore. It’s time to have a normal gut because food’s going to start coming down in a few months. Verse, Here’s, Here’s the recipe for mom’s milk is coming so you can digest the milk, but let’s close those tight junctions. No more intestinal permeability here, so when baby is born by c section and doesn’t get that with so many obstetricians known now because there have been many, many studies on this over the years, the obstetricians will take a sponge and kind of insert a sponge in the reproductive tract so that a baby has to be born by c section for some reason.

Dr. Tom: They have decision then takes a sponge and just smothers baby with the sponge. We have maybe as much of that good bacteria as possible. So that’s one of the questions for the 34 year old woman has come in. How was your birth? Was it a natural childbirth? Was it a Syrian section? Did you have any entity, any antibiotics in the early part of life? Um, and you find so many kids that had recurrent ear infections and they’ve had multiple doses of antibiotics which alters the gut of the microbiome. The good bacteria gut completely gets altered. So that baby then I have a after birth is colicky. If baby was born by c section, they’re much more likely to be lucky and just crying and pain, crying when they’re fed and then they get, they’re much more vulnerable to ear infections and asthma and, and in the early teenage years, acne, and then they get constipation, um, uh, which progresses through their late teenage years and if it’s a woman, a menstrual irregularities, their cycles are not regular because the microbiome is out of balance, has been for years. And then they go into their twenties, they’ve got severe menstrual cramps with their cycles and it’s like

Reena Jadhav:  You’re literally describing my life.

Dr. Tom: This is a mechanism that’s so very, very common. And then they come to you in 34 and they’ve been diagnosed with colitis. Am I going to treat the latest, you know, of course you want to give the safest life jacket possible so a person can function calm down the inflammation as much as you can, but you have to change the environment that this body has developed from. You have to rebuild the microbiome, help build stronger thyroids or adrenals or whatever tissue didn’t have a chance to develop properly.

Reena Jadhav:  Oh my goodness, you just answered the question dominant in most people’s minds when they fall sick, which is why me.

Dr. Tom: Exactly, exactly. You just have to go back upstream and you almost always can find out what it is

Reena Jadhav:  and it’s literally all the way to birth, Huh?

Dr. Tom: Yeah. People before now, we now know that it’s generations. It goes back generations sometimes and that the DNA, uh, in the microbiome gets passed on by the mother to the baby and a mother carries forward from generations beforehand. Some of the health problems that grandparents and great grandparents.

Reena Jadhav:  Let’s take a look at what are all the different auto immune diseases today. So for those of our listeners that are trying to understand, you know, is this theory something that I want to keep watching? You mentioned diabetes. You mentioned collitus. Yes. Go ahead and give us the list of the dominator.

Dr. Tom: Sure. There’s over 80 of them now that we know for sure. Multiple Sclerosis, rheumatoid arthritis, Lupus, systemic Lupus, arithmetic hostess, a Scleroderma, psoriasis. Alzheimer’s is autoimmune. Parkinson’s is autoimmune. Cardiovascular disease begins as an auto immune mechanism. There’s over 80 of them now. So there’s no tissue in the body that may not have an auto immune mechanism going on. Hepatitis is autoimmune. What about cancer is cancer? Autoimmune tube hamster has an autoimmune contribution to it. There’s more going on in cancer than just the immune system attacking self. But there is that component to it. There also.

Reena Jadhav:  Well, I think it might be easier for you just to tell us what is excluded from the auto immune list at this point. Like what’s not auto immune.

Dr. Tom: Oh my goodness. Um, let’s see. Happiness,

Reena Jadhav:  happiness was auto immune disease and we could all just, you know, the infected would happiness. How wonderful.

Dr. Tom: That’d be. Great. That would be great. No, but actually happiness is something that you have to develop like a nice garden, a beautiful garden. You slowly have to make room for the beautiful plants to grow and flower and the weeds not to grow so much.

Reena Jadhav:  Oh, so true. So in terms of just helping people understand, yes, there is autoimmune. It’s probably coming from something that happened way back when. What else are the symptoms? You’re talking about spectrum and you’re on your book. Autoimmune fix. So for someone who hasn’t yet been diagnosed, what are some of the symptoms that maybe giving an early indication of something more serious burrowing down the road? Because as we know, disease doesn’t happen overnight. You know, you don’t get cancer overnight or you don’t get ms overnight. The lightest isn’t overnight. It’s taken years. So how do you know what those symptoms are so you can take the right steps to prevent getting a collitus or getting Ms.

Dr. Tom: it’s really a good question and unfortunately there’s no simple answer. You know what’s happened is that we have grown up in a society and we believe it’s our birthright that some other person is in charge of our health. We go see them when we’re sick. You’d never see them when you’re well, right? We treat our cars better than we treat our bodies because there’s an owner’s manual for the car and so you go in every 5,000 or 10,000 miles, they change the oil, they do whatever they do. When’s the last time you went in for a tuneup on your body weight? But this thing, this thing has to run for 80, 90, a hundred years, 24 slash seven. There is no machine that’s ever been built that can do that. But we expect this body to do that without giving it maintenance. So we have to reframe how we think about our bodies.

Dr. Tom: They’re not like attendance about only when they’re acting up that when we start learning how to appreciate how these bodies run and what’s good fuel to put in them and how do you help them to rest when they need to rest and how do you work them out in a way that uh, uh, uh, encourages stronger tissue, healthier function. And when you learn these things, your whole life changes. People are just happy and they’re, and I’m not talking about being blissfully ignorant about what’s going on in life, but they feel happy. They wake up in the mornings and they’re ready to go to, to embrace and tackle whatever it is that they have to tackle, you know, but it takes a while to get there. This is a concept that I want to introduce right now and it comes from a Tibetan word called an, I’m not sure I’m pronouncing it, but I think it’s my tree m, a r I t r, I means loving kindness, unconditional friendship with oneself that your best friend is you.

Dr. Tom: You treat yourself in a way better than you hope that somebody else would treat you. You know, because if you don’t treat yourself well, how can anyone else treat you well? What does that mean? I just read a paper last week that people that eat a French fries and potato chips three times or more a week, have a fivefold increase risk of early death compared to people that don’t eat French fries and potato chips three times or more a week. You know that when you eat those bad facts, they’re just bad for you. Bad means bad. Well, I could have a little. Well, no, you can’t. You know when, when you eat those bad fats, those, the remanence of those fence stay in your bloodstream for 57 days. That’s how long you can find the residue of bad fats in your blood and your immune system trying to protect you has to fight these things. They’re not supposed to be there

Reena Jadhav: so you activated your immune system for 57 days. In essence.

Dr. Tom: That’s right. Just to fight the French fries that you ate. I mean, I love French fries. I love truffle flavored French fries, right? I’m a sucker for those, but I had them once every three months. That’s really a treat a. it’s really a treat. You know, you just don’t want to do that very often. Let me give you an example and then you start thinking about all of the fats that we eat in our life that aren’t so good for us. Forty percent of the cell wall of your brain cells. The wall was called the membrane. That’s the wall around the cell is made up of fat. Forty percent of that fat is Dha. That comes from fish. There’s two major components in the facts of fish, EPA and Dha.

Dr. Tom: The Dha is really good for your brain. When you don’t get enough Dha, your body is still going to make new cells and if you don’t have enough of the correct raw material to make the cells, your body will use whatever it can you know and you build your house out of Straw instead of brick. Right? So what does that mean for brain cells? I’m going to date myself here. You know you, we used to go to the doctor and you go in the bathroom to leave a urine sample and you put the Cup on the Lazy Susan in the wall and the Lazy Susan, you rotates around to the other side of the wall, to the and the nurses over there and she runs all the tests on it. That’s a lazy Susan. The way your brain works and the way your nerves work is that they’re lazy susans in the cell walls, in the membranes of the cells, and one cell makes a chemical that goes through the cell wall to the Lazy Susan to the next spring.

Dr. Tom: So it takes that chemical and tweaks a little bit, goes to the next brain cell to the next brain. So, and there’s a line and that that line of cells makes your nerves and they communicate through the Lazy Susans, but if you’ve made your house out of Straw instead of brick, you’re lazy. Susans are all rusty and they don’t turn very easily. You don’t communicate very well. Dance why? The studies show when you take kids with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and you give them the good fats from fish oils, especially Dha in six months to a year, their Iq goes up. it’s because their brains are functioning better because lazy susans that they’ve pushed out the bad fats and you now have good fats in there and their Iq goes up. They think better. They’re more coordinated, muscular wise or more athletic and they’re processing is quicker and more accurate. You see the studies again and again and again like that. So that’s just one example of putting the right raw materials in there. And that’s true for your skin. It’s true for your bones, for your thyroid. Auto immune diseases are when your immune system says we’ve got a problem here and the immune system is trying to fight something. So where does that come from? Why does your immune system try to protect you? And it’s attacking your own tissue. So auto immune diseases are when your immune system says we’ve got a problem here and the immune system is trying to fight something. So where does that come from? Why does your immune system try to protect you and it’s attacking your own tissue?

Reena Jadhav:  Why is our auto immune system trying to protect us? What? What’s going on?

Dr. Tom: I’m going to tell you two studies and then tie it into your question. The first one from the World Wildlife Fund came out about two and a half years ago in conjunction with two major universities and the way they do the stock index, um, for investors, the mathematics that they do for that, they did the type of mathematics looking at 17,000 different species of life on the planet, insects, birds, animals, mammals, fish. And what they found out was that between 1970 and 2011, there has been, on average across the board, a 58 percent reduction in populations. Of all mammals are mammals. All vertebrate species on the planet. Anything that has a spine, insects, birds, fish, mammals, 58 percent of everything is gone. In 41 years gone now for birds it was 35 percent, but for mammals living near a fresh water, it was 78 percent. Seventy eight percent of the beavers are gone.

Dr. Tom: The cougars, the muskrats, they’re gone. Seventy eight percent of them in 41 years. Why? They’re drinking the water. You were drinking the water coming out of the streams by your home or the in from the river. By your home, you’d get cancer quicker. You’d be unable to reproduce just like the animals right now, the second study, the second study was from 1974 to 2011, so almost the same time, 37 years as opposed to 41 years, 37 years, and it was a Meta analysis of what that means is they looked at a whole bunch of studies on the same topic and it was over a 180 studies and they looked at sperm count in healthy men, not infertile men, but healthy men. And in the last 37 years there has been a 59 percent reduction in sperm count in healthy men. Oh goodness. Scientists worry about extinction of a species at 72 percent.

Dr. Tom: We’re at 59 percent in 37 years. So now take the first study, 41 years, 58 percent of all the animals, or of all the vertebrate species, 58 percent are gone. Seventy eight percent of those near freshwater gone. And then the second study, 59 percent reduction in sperm count in healthy men. And at 72 percent you worry about extinction of the species. Now the question is why is this happening? Right, and so that’s that. Now we get to why is autoimmune disease happening? It’s for the same reason, and that is the amount of environmental chemicals that we’re exposed to every day has never occurred before in the history of man. Never let me give you an. You go to a coffee shop, you get a copy to go, you put a lid on it, the hot liquid, the steam from the liquid goes up to the underside of the lid.

Dr. Tom: It condenses and it drips back down into the coffee full of Bisphenol a is a chemical that helps to mold plastic. You put the Coffee Cup up to your lips with the lid on it. The hot liquid hits the underside of the lid and it tapers down into the open name full of Bisphenol a. Now what is bisphenol a? Do business does all kinds of nasty things in your body, but mainly it acts like a very powerful estrogen in that it binds onto estrogen receptor sites, and that’s why autoimmune disease is much more common in women than in men. The average is three to one for some like thyroid, it’s nine, two, one nine women. For every man, there’s nine women. They get thyroid disease, autoimmune disease because these estrogen like chemicals bind on to estrogen receptor sites and then the immune system sees this chemical bound onto your receptor sites.

Dr. Tom: What’s that? I better fight that and the immune system attacks that thing. It damages your tissue. Then your body has to get rid of the damaged tissue to make room for new cells and so you make antibodies to that tissue like your thyroid and then you have the circle going and just keep making antibodies to your thyroid. In this example, the auto immune diseases, they’re all just going through the roof in the last, in the last 40, 50 years. This is why it’s the amount of chemicals that we’re exposed to every day. The lipstick we use pool, you know, you read what’s in the shampoo, you have no idea what all those chemicals mean, but you inhale that stuff that gets in and it goes right through your lungs into your bloodstream or the the acetone, nail Polish and the chemicals and nail Polish is directly associated with developing the autoimmune disease. Systemic Sclerosis.

Dr. Tom: We see these correlations of mercury. I mean every tuna that you all except for one, all tuna now except for one has mercury levels in it and it’s just terrible, terrible. You know, cause tuna’s a great food for you, but it’s full of mercury now. And so we see this world of toxic chemicals and heavy metals that we’re being exposed to and these things that accumulate in our body. I used to make jokes about this, Oh, 20, 25 years ago with my patients that I saw an article that in the embalming industry, they use less embalming fluid now than they ever did before because our bodies are already preserved. These toxic chemicals. I mean, you know, so they’re using less embalming fluid.

Reena Jadhav:  That is so horrifying that you have to laugh at that, but we, we are being embalmed alive and we wonder why our bodies are fighting so hard to protect us.

Dr. Tom: That’s right. And you know, this stuff is so overwhelming for people. That’s why I talked about my tree and there’s two concepts. One is my tree be kind to yourself and the second is one, just one. In the Museum of science in Florence, there is a display. It’s a round marble stand with a glass dome. It’s about this high and is Galileo’s finger. Oh, and an opinion if you go to Amazon type of Galileo’s finger. There’s a couple of books about Galileo bequeathed that all of his inventions can be on display for all posterity as long as they also displayed his finger. And so I used that slide. I took a picture of it and I use that slide and talking to physicians all the time because doctors don’t know all this stuff that I’m telling you and I tell them the more technical aspects, they don’t know this.

Dr. Tom: And I say, look, here’s what it takes and be analogy I use is I say, you know, I’ve sat where you are hundreds of times in seminars over the last 35 years and if it’s a good speaker, a good panel of speakers, I’m furiously taking notes like some of you are in listening to these podcasts and these events. You’re taking notes and pages sometimes of notes and you know, I’d take notes after notes after notes and I go back to the practice on Monday morning. There’s no time to implement any of it. And everyone laughs. And totally. That’s very true. That’s very true. So I came up with the philosophy. If there’s one thing, one thing that I take home from this weekend seminar stays with me, my practice for the rest of my career than the thousands of dollars that I’ve spent to fly into the city at the hotel, paid for the conference, pay for the meals, be out of my practice.

Dr. Tom: It was worth it. If there’s just one thing I wish I could remember 10, but if there was one for the rest of my career is well worth it, so I use this one finger concept to say if you allocate one hour a week, just one hour a week to learning a little more on this topic of autoimmunity, for example, one hour a week to listen to this, this series maybe again and again, just one hour a week. In six months you’ve got this down and at that point you’re implementing some of the things. For example, you aren’t going to starbucks to get your copy without your mug and say fill it up please, and then you’re not using those plastic lids, right? You’ll learn all. I mean, why do you take your shoes off at the door when you walk in the house that a zen Buddhist thing, you were walking down the sidewalk to come home. Your neighbors sprayed the sidewalk to kill the weeds yesterday. Now, now you’ve got roundup on your shoes and walk in the house, sit on the carpet in your house with your shoes on. Now there’s roundup on the carpet. You’re little infant is crawling around on the carpet or your teenage daughter is doing her homework, laying on the floor. Now they get roundup on their arms and their hands and it gets in their face and it gets in their body toxic chemicals

Reena Jadhav:  and you wonder why everyone sneezing and has so many allergies.

Dr. Tom: That’s right. That’s right. That’s why you leave your shoes at the door. Why does everyone need a an air filtration system in their house? It was in the 19 nineties that the studies started coming out in Mexico City that every dog, when the dogs passed, if they did an autopsy on the dog, every dog had evidence of Alzheimer’s and in the early to mid two thousands and late into the early, into 2008, 2009, the studies started coming out because we came up with the blood tests and urine tests to look at every child they check in. Mexico City has inflammation in their brain and evidence of early Alzheimer’s. Every child that they check, it’s the air pollution is so bad there that you breathe it in. It goes right through your lungs, directly up to your brain, triggering the inflammation in your brain. We know now there’s five different types of balls, timers, and the most common type is inhalation. Alzheimer’s is what you’re inhaling everyday. That’s gasoline on the fire in your brain. You’re pouring gasoline on the fire every day. If you live in a moldy house, if there’s mold around, if you got mold in your bathroom and you can see it, you’re throwing gasoline on the fire of your brain every day and it may take 20 years or 30 years before you’ve got dementia, but rest assured, this most likely happening.

Reena Jadhav:  What if my symptoms Dr Tom had been brain fog symptoms and so I had been desperately trying to figure out what the Hell is wrong with me, what is creating my 20th symptoms? And so someone had said something about air and I said, what? I live in this beautiful golf course community. I’m surrounded by vineyards and olive trees. I live in heaven. What are you talking about? But okay, I’m going to go find out. You know, kind of what’s being. I reached out to the local county office. I said, send me what’s being sprayed a little bit of a fast. They said, you’re not going to go do some great, awful right on us. I said, no, no. This is for me personally. So they sent me a list spreadsheet sometime googling to figure out, okay, what the hell was being sprayed around, and the conclusion I reached was that when I went for that beautiful walk or that run, because I love running, the harder I ran, the more sick I was becoming. So the concept of, Oh, I’m going to go out and read some beautiful clean air is no longer our reality today.

Dr. Tom: Correct It is not. If you want to know how bad it is, take your car to the carwash, go to a really nice car, you know one where the guys have the water bottle on their hip and they drive home. Leave the car outside for four hours. Set your alarm for four hours. Then go outside and run your hand across the windshield. That’s what you’re breathing. You can’t see it. You can’t taste it. You can’t feel it, but that’s what you’re breathing. Twenty four slash seven and that’s the most. That’s the most common trigger for Alzheimer’s now is inhalation Alzheimer’s, so I mean that’s why you one hour a week because this stuff is sold overwhelming. It’s like I’m just doing this with you right now and it’s overwhelming to you, but the goal here is to motivate you to embrace this concept. Alright, I’ll give this one hour a week. This guy is making sense and if you get the book, the autoimmune fix, you’ll get lots of all these details and the little pearls in there of how to do this and what to do, but you have to be really kind to yourself. You have to be patient and kind and don’t expect you’re going to get well tomorrow because what’s taken 30, 40, 50 years to develop is going to take you a year to two years to reverse

Reena Jadhav:  and I’ve talked to so many friends who struggled with the concept of knowing the right thing to do and then actually doing it and do your concept of May three. I always say step one is just looking in the mirror every morning and saying, I love you, I care for you. You’re the most important thing in my life, and it changes subconsciously how you treat your body the whole day. Stop you from eating that French fry because the first thing in the morning you set to yourself was you love yourself and you take care of yourself. You’re going to protect yourself and that’s not what you’re doing when you’re eating that Mcdonald’s fry easier. Right? So that was one of the tricks that I didn’t. It’s a Louis. Hey, it’s not my own track. Everything I did was learn from some brilliant genius like yourself.

Dr. Tom: Just one, one tweet to that because I think the majority of people cannot look in the mirror and say, I love you and you. You were not able to do that the first time you read about it or you were told about it. So it’s just like everything else. And the concept is base hits, win the ballgame, had home runs, base hits, win the ballgame. So if you look in the mirror in the morning and you know, your mind says, oh my hair or here or whatever, you know your mind is going to do that because that’s the way we’re programmed. We say, you know what? I’m going to take a little better care today of me than I did yesterday just a little bit better. And if you hit it, if you hit from that base hit concept, it’s not so challenging because I think for me, my mind says, oh, I love you more than anybody else’s. Like most people can’t do that.

Reena Jadhav:  You’re absolutely right. And that’s, that’s one of the hardest things you’ll do because we take ourselves for granted. Not until you’ve lost everything around your health. Do you understand how invaluable it is, what your body’s doing for you. You know your party’s job of keeping you strong and healthy and going. We just take that for granted. Do your appointment and give it the right fuel. We don’t give it the right sleep. We, you’re right. We take better care of our cars because hey, that might be, you know, that I might need to actually return or money for that too expensive to take care of my car because a lot of money and because we didn’t pay for those body and we don’t realize that, that it’s more precious than anything else you own at this point, and so it really deserves to be taken better care of. So what are the things that someone can do easily, quickly, immediately that can help with this inflammation cascade?

Dr. Tom: From the big picture overview, we know that practically every disease is a disease of inflammation, that the body’s on fire. At the cellular level, the cells are on fire. The question is, is it gasoline or kerosene? Is it a brain cell or a kidney cell? But it’s on fire. So the first thing you want to do is stop throwing gasoline on the fire. But that’s so much easier said than done because we have a lifestyle that’s developed over 20, 30, 40, 50 years of doing things a certain way. And so it’s the baby steps. The base hits that helped to win the ballgame. So, and it depends on the individual. Some people can’t afford to take a baby step, they have to stop this right now. But for most of us, if we can transition, the odds of it moving into longterm habits and being successful for a lifetime are very high.

Dr. Tom: So one of the things we first recommend is to avoid wheat completely at breakfast three times a week. So just come up with some recipes, like you’re going to have eggs and potatoes without the toast. Maybe you’ll have a little cantaloupe or a piece of watermelon. Um, instead of the toast a couple of times a week, um, whatever, um, there their recipes, lots of recipes in the book, the autoimmune fix. There’s lots of recipes for this type of thing, but you want to avoid wheat. That’s a primary. Why? Because Hollon, h o l l o n Hollon and his team at Harvard, they published on this in 2014. And I have five studies in my training for doctors on this. Say the same thing. And that is that everyone, every human, every time they eat wheat, gets intestinal permeability, the leaky gut, every, every time, every time.

Dr. Tom: Now, Mrs. Patient, you have an entire new body. Every seven years, every cell regenerates. Um, some cells are really quick, like the inside lining of your gut. So every three to five days, some cells are very slow, like bone cells are really slow. But every seven years you have an entire new body, right? So how does that relate to this weak thing? Every time you eat wheat, you get intestinal permeability. What does that mean? So I’m going to back up and give you the visual. If you think of the intestine, your digestive tract is a two. Starts at the mouth, goes to the other end, is about 20, 25 feet long, winds around in the inside of your abdomen there. If you were to take a donut, and if you stretch the doughnut out and you look down the doughnut, that’s your intestines. It’s this too, right?

Dr. Tom: So when you eat food, when you swallow food, it’s in the tube. It’s not in your body yet. It’s got to go through the walls of the two to get into your bloodstream, and then all those nutrients can go to your brain and everywhere else, right? How does it do that? When you eat proteins, proteins are like a pearl necklace and hydrochloric acid made in your stomach and does the class of the Pearl Necklace. Now you have a string of pearls and the enzymes that are produced by your gallbladder and your liver and your pancreas and the Microbiota, your gut. All these enzymes act as scissors to cut the pearl necklace into smaller clumps of the Pearl Necklace. Smaller clumps, smaller clubs, smaller clubs, smaller. Come until you get down to each individual pearl of the Pearl Necklace. That’s called an amino acid. Now the inside of the tube is lined with cheesecloth, and as you know, cheese cloth keeps the big stuff from getting through.

Dr. Tom: It only lets the little stuff go through, so the pearls of the Pearl necklace, when they’re small enough, go right through the cheese cloth, right through the walls of the intestines into the bloodstream. And then those pearls, those amino acids, get used to make new bone cells and brain cells and hormones and transmitters, neurotransmitters, all the things that our body needs are made from the amino acids that were snip, snip, snip, snip, snipped off, right? When you eat wheat, every human, if you’re human, if you’re listening to this and you’re a human, this means this means every human. When you eat wheat, you tear the cheese cloth, but the fastest growing cells in the body are the inside lining of the intestine. So it heals. You have a sandwich for breakfast. You tear the cheese cloth that heals. You have a sandwich, you have toast for breakfast, you tear the cheese cloth that heals a sandwich for lunch.

Dr. Tom: Tear the cheese cloth that heals pasta for dinner, tear the cheese cloth that heals croutons on your salad, tear the cheese cloth that heals a cookie, tear the cheese cloth and heals day after day after day after day after day, until one day you cross a line and you don’t heal anymore. That’s called loss of oral tolerance. Oral meaning what we eat, loss of oral tolerance. And when you can’t tolerate this stuff anymore and you don’t heal from it anymore, now you get the leaky gut and now these bigger molecules called macro molecules get into the bloodstream through the tears in the cheesecloth. They aren’t supposed to get in there yet. They’re supposed to go further down the intestines being snip, snip, snip, snip, snip. But they get through to early. These macromolecules get in and your immune system trying to protect you, trying to protect you from this macro molecule says this, is that something I could use to make new brain cells or new heart cells.

Dr. Tom: I better fight this. And then you make antibodies to that food. So when somebody does a 90 food blood test to see what they’re sensitive to and it comes back and they’re sensitive to 20 or 25 different food, oh my God, what do I do? I eat well, of course it is. Your immune system’s trying to protect you right now. Here’s where the auto immunity comes into play is that when the immune system attacks that food, let’s say it’s shrimp or fish, doesn’t matter what the molecules are, they have protein structure that it’s attacking, looks very similar to the protein structure of some of your own tissue, and so those antibodies to the food started attacking your tissue. They start attacking your joints and you might get rheumatoid arthritis. They started attacking the Myelin, which is the Saran wrap around your nerves and you might get ms that we that.

Dr. Tom: That’s why the scientists tell us that in the trilogy in the of autoimmune disease, there are three things. The genetic vulnerability to that particular disease. You can’t do anything about your genes. That’s the deck of cards that you’re dealt. That’s fine. Not a big deal. The environmental trigger that sets it off like the food molecules that get in that fight the food and it looks like your own cells, and so you start attacking your own cells as called molecular mimicry, and the third thing in the trilogy is intestinal permeability or the leaky gut. So you have to have that leaky gut. For the macro molecules to get through or the bacteria to get through into the bloodstream. That’s why the scientists say that you can arrest and that’s their language. Arrest the development of autoimmune disease by healing the gut, so the first thing we want to do to take care of yourself with the low base, hit a couple of days a week.

Dr. Tom: I’m not going to have wait for breakfast and you come up with new recipes in. There are many guidelines. We’ve got lots of guidelines for you on this.

Reena Jadhav: What do you think of the gluten free breads and Bagels as replacement, or do they create more issues?

Dr. Tom: Okay, let’s talk about that. Set over 70 percent. There’s a category of foods called prebiotics. Prebiotics are the foods that feed the probiotics, the good bacteria in your gut. I’ll give you a little example that tells you how important this is. There’s a type of fat in the bloodstream, fastest growing cells in the body inside lining of the gut. Those cells, the fuel your body uses to make new cells for the inside lining of your gut. That fuels called butyric acid or butyrate and um, when you don’t have enough butyric acid, you make your house out of Straw instead of brick.

Dr. Tom: That’s why if you google butyric acid and colon cancer, here come the studies. Oh no, butyric acid, high, high risk of colon cancer because you’ve made your house out of Straw instead of brick. You made your new cells much weaker, much more vulnerable to morphing into something that good for you. Right? So you want to have enough butyric acid. How do you give butyric acid? Butyric acid is made in your gut by the action of the good bacteria in your gut to vegetable fibers. That’s why you need vegetable fibers is because the good bacteria kind of didn’t. That kind of. They feed on the vegetable fibers and they make butyric acid. That’s the end product of that. So the vegetable fibers are called prebiotics. Seventy percent of the prebiotic in the western diet is wheat because not, not everything about weed is bad for you, but there’s much more bad than good to wheat, but 70 percent of the prebiotic is from wheat.

Dr. Tom: So when people give up wheat, which is a good thing in general, but then they replace it with the gluten free foods, there’s no prebiotic in the gluten free foods and so you don’t replace the loss of the prebiotics that you were getting from wheat in. We just call it a rabbit holes islands. You don’t replace the Arabah knows islands by eating the gluten free foods. The result is the good bacteria in your gut starts to die off because it’s not getting the food that it needs and six months, a year down the road, many people going on a gluten free diet or sicker because they didn’t know how to do it properly. So there’s nothing wrong with having a gluten free blueberry muffin once in a while, you know, I have gluten free pasta maybe once every three weeks because I missed the feeling of Pi like pasta, you know, I’ll have it once every two or three weeks, but you just don’t have that very often.

Dr. Tom: And so let’s talk about what you do instead. So, and this is part of the protocol to heal the leaky gut also. But it’s also the protocol for when you’re going wheat free. This is patient. When you go buy vegetables at the supermarket, always buy organic. There are many reasons why. Maybe we’ll talk about it later, why not gmo stuff, but always organic and you buy a couple of every root vegetable in the store. Rutabagas turnips, parsnips, radishes, sweet potatoes, not so much white potatoes, carrots, every root vegetable you can find because those root vegetables are really good prebiotics and you have at least one serving a day of a prebiotic. Then you also go to Google and you type in list of prebiotic foods. Here comes the list and you always have to from the list. Bananas are prebiotics. Artichokes are prebiotics. You’ll find there are many, many foods that you recognize.

Dr. Tom: Oh, I like those. I could eat those. And so you have to prebiotics from the Google list of all the foods that are prebiotics and one root vegetable a day, every day. Well, I don’t know how to make turnips. Why don’t want to do with turnips? Parsnips. Well, this is what I do. I’m half Italian, you know, so I cut up some onion, olive oil, onion, garlic, dice up the root vegetable, whatever it is. They all go the same way. They go into my pan fried and within three to five minutes there are soft and then I just add some spicy Italian seasoning or maybe a little peanut sauce or something to my vegetables. I mean it’s quick and easy and you’re getting your root vegetables every day.

Reena Jadhav:  Yeah, I just dropped a whole bunch of trace. Stick it in the avenue. You just get a delicious roasted vegetable.

Dr. Tom: Yeah, it’s really easy. Or you know, my kids gave me a, a, a, a, a, a chicken roaster, roasting thing that you stand it up inside and it goes around and is like a real history in the pan underneath. I just chop up a bunch of root vegetables and throw them in there and the fat from the chicken as making, you know, that goes down. They. So you get all that nice soft. The juicy stuff in there. They were really simple. You know when you’ve tried it. Once you find. It’s not hard at all to try these new things, but one root vegetables a day and two other prebiotics from the list and you’re feeding the good bacteria in your gut. Every day you’re creating a healthier environment. It’s base hits, and then six months from now your guts and very different place. It’s much healthier.

Dr. Tom: You’ve got more colonies of the good bacteria and many people have heard a lot about this now that you know for every one message from the brain telling the gut what to do, there are nine messages from the gut telling the brain what to do. Our brain hormones called neurotransmitters are controlled by what the gut bacteria tell it to do. So that’s why you want lots of really good bacteria when you’re dealing with depression or when you’re dealing with anxiety or with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. You want to make sure you’ve got a good health. You’re working towards getting a good, healthy gut because it makes a world of difference, a world of difference.

Reena Jadhav:  I think that that’s really where health starts and ends.

Dr. Tom: That’s exactly right. That’s exactly right.

Reena Jadhav:  And uh, we’ve been, we’ve not understood that our gut is something that actually has to be taken care of and has to be nurtured. And thank you so much for sharing such a simple way. I mean, these are not expensive, complicated things you need to do. These are simple. Just I call it reprioritize your shopping list, right? Baked goods, packaged, frozen foods instead of, you know, that’s typically how my list used to be bred. Amy’s frozen enchiladas, right? Like that used to be the shopping list. Now the shopping list is right, carrots. Rutabaga is exactly what you said is just sort of Chard, Kale, apples.

Dr. Tom: It’d be, don’t know what to do with this stuff. You’ll put the vegetables. The good takeaway is just to him with a little olive oil and throw some spices on it. There’ll be good they’ll cz. And then you’ll have confidence to try a little more sophisticated recipes. The road

Reena Jadhav:  and your pollen does change is so it is hard to go from an amy’s Enchilada to having sauteed carrots. It’s not the same Palette pleaser. When your tastes change and at some point you are craving those carrots, like if I don’t get enough vegetables now, I actually crave them because I think my bacteria is so well developed now that, and that’s the other thing. I’m convinced that what we eat is based on what the bacteria that you’ve got.

Dr. Tom: I’m going to give you. This is a real geek thing. This is a real big thing, but it’s very true, right? There are 10 times more cells of the bacteria in your gut than all the human cells in the body put together. 10 Times more bacteria, and that bacteria has a hundred to 150 times, not two times or three times $100 to 150 times more genes than the human genome and genes control function. Genes determine how your body functions. So there’s 10 times more of them and they have 100 times more directions that they send out to the rest of the body. So with my friends, after a long day in a seminar, you know, when we’re having a glass of wine by the second glass of wine, we’re asking the question, are we humans with a whole lot of bacteria or bacteria having a human experience and the Morse, I mean it sounds Geeky, science you read, you started saying, Whoa, I really should respect this bacteria and give it its due and feed it the good foods.

Dr. Tom: I want good, strong, healthy bacteria in my gut and in the rest of my body, the only in the oral cavity and everywhere I want more healthy bacteria because I see all these studies that it reverses ms in and reverses rheumatoid and it heals a leaky gut. All right, so I’m going to focus a little bit of basic everyday on feeding for good bacteria. What about probiotics? I guess go to the natural food store, the whole foods or wherever you go. Buy five different types of fermented vegetables, five different types. They’re not pasteurized. Sauerkraut, Kimchi, me, Zoho, uh, a fermented beets, curry flavor, five different types. And every day you have one for pool of one of the types of fermented vegetables, you want more, have more, but at least a four pole everyday because at one for full has. I’m not exaggerating, millions of good bacteria that helped us support the good bacteria in your gut and by changing about, by having one of a different type every day, every couple of days a different, you’re making sure because it’s the diversity of the bacteria in your gut that make you strong.

Dr. Tom: It’s the diversity not just to have a whole lot of one type. Like don’t, don’t eat sauerkraut every day. I mean it’s not bad for you, but you want to have sauerkraut and Kimchi and beats and a measle. You want to have different types of fermented foods everyday. Just a little bit. So you, the prebiotics, one root vegetable a day to other prebiotics from the list of prebiotic foods on Google. And then probiotics have forkful or more. I mean if you’re a 180 to 200 pound guy, you need more than 100 pound woman. Right? So then you do two portfolios and if your kids don’t like fermented vegetables, just put the spoon in there to get the juice and put it in their mashed potatoes. They don’t have to taste it. It tastes has nothing to do with the benefit. Just get it in any way you can.

Reena Jadhav:  Oh, I have a great recipe because I was one of those people that I got really bored eating Sauerkraut and fermented beets and I just didn’t enjoy the texture. So what I do now, Dr Tom, is I actually blended in a blender. Bunch of other things that I make a dressing out of it. Because I love the beat dressing. You just, I literally take the entire jar, I toss it in, put a bunch of tablespoons of olive oil or macadamia nut oil. I’ll throw some hemp seed in there. Um, some salt, little bit of apple cider vinegar if needed.

Dr. Tom: And coming to your house for dinner. It sounds really great. It sounds.

Reena Jadhav: Just toss it in your salad and you don’t even know that you’re having any kind of a sauerkraut or.

Dr. Tom: Boy, that’s brilliant. And for guys guys, I throw some pumpkin seeds in there, also grind, grind up some pumpkin seeds and put it in there because pumpkin seeds are so good for your prostate. there’s, there’s ingredients in pumpkin seeds that are really good for your prostate and you have, you reached the age of 80 the study, say 80 percent of men will have prostate cancer. It’s not what will take you down for most guys, but you don’t want any of that stuff. So just a little bit of good food for your prostate. There’s two foods that are really great for your prostate. The first one, pumpkin seeds and the second one is tomato paste, which has been like tomato sauces, tomato sauce on eggplant or whatever. But that just tomatoes because there’s not much lycopene in an individual tomato, but tomato paste is cooked down tomatoes. So you get much higher concentrations of the polyphenol called lycopene. So, uh, so having some tomato paste product every week is great. But the pumpkin seeds in your, a fermented vegetables salad dressing is a great idea.

Reena Jadhav:  Oh, I’m gonna. Try that tomorrow for sure. Great. What about those packaged probiotics? Do you recommend those?

Dr. Tom: There’s some new science coming out of the research has been clear for quite awhile that taking probiotics, it seems to help. It does seem to help, but you can’t colonize your gut by taking those probiotics. They’re transient. They, they won’t stick around. They don’t grab onto the walls of your intestine and colonized very well. Uh, but there are many, many studies have some benefits from taking them, but I’d much rather have it from foods because those foods will change your microbiome in a week, just one week. You’ve got a different microbiome by including the fermented vegetables. So taking, taking the probiotic supplements is okay. We used to think it was great, but now we know that it’s kind of like priming the pump if you will. You know, if you’ve got an old and pump yet, sometimes you have to pour water down there first and then then the pump will work. So taking probiotic supplements can be helpful to prime the pump, but it won’t create new colonies on its own.

Reena Jadhav: My learning was a, you can’t take shortcuts because Dr Tom, we all are looking for shortcuts.

Dr. Tom: We are. We are, but look for shortcuts and you know, unfortunately we’ll put that on your tombstone.

Dr. Tom: They tried to shortcut. It didn’t work because we’ve grown up in a society that has trained us. We are trained not to take care of our health. We are trained to wait until the car breaks down or we go to the mechanic and the mechanic uses duck tape and chicken wire to hold it together as opposed to figuring out why did the car breakdown, why did this body breakdown and going upstream to figure out why we’re trained not to do that and it’s a billion and billions and billions of dollar pharmaceutical industry. This profiting from that way of thinking. I mean, what’s in our bathroom? What is that thing on the wall in the bathroom, in every bathroom in America, the medicine chest. The medicine closet. Exactly. It’s not called the classic. It’s not called the health chest. It’s a medicine chest, a medicine cabinet, a medicine closet. We’ve been trained to think that way and it’s why our health is getting worse and worse that we all have to be thinking the way that you’re thinking Ria, because you’ve learned from experience that you were going to die if you didn’t change what you were doing. And I’m so grateful that you went through that because now you have the passion to carry this message out to the world.

Reena Jadhav:  You bet no one should be sick. No one needs to be sick. It’s a lot of needless suffering that I feel we’re all going through and thank you to doctors like you that are taking the time to come and share their wisdom so we can get everybody educated. Um, so everybody can take charge of their health. Dr Tom, how do we fix our guts that are leaking?

Dr. Tom: The first thing we have to understand, you know, there’s lots of package out there and products and I’ve had so many doctors come up to me, uh, in seminars and say, I give glutamine for leaky gut.

Reena Jadhav:  Yes. Zinc carnosine, yes.

Dr. Tom: And they stay and they’re like, oh, okay, well that’s good, but glutamine doesn’t turn the genes on to heal the gut that vitamin D does, or that curcumin does that there is no one. There is one product of if there’s only one, there’s one and I’ll talk about that, but what’s most important to understand is that you can give products to heal the intestinal permeability and the studies are pretty clear that these products can help, but the environment that the intestinal permeability is in the tube itself, the inside of the to the micro biome hail, you have to change the microbiome because if you have a disease, you’ve got a disease microbiome that disease developed over time because the microbiome that you have allowed that disease to develop over time. So in your case you had colon cancer and your microbiome a lot to occurred.

Dr. Tom: There was no way you would have gotten to the health that you currently have unless you also address your microbiome. So that means what we talked about previously with the pre and the probiotics is a critical component to set the stage to heal intestinal permeability. And then of course we talked just a little bit about wheat and then everyone gets tears in the cheesecloth when they eat wheat. So yeah, you have to get the wheat out of there. There are many other foods that may trigger intestinal permeability if you have a sensitivity to them. So you have to find out what those are. But the first and most important thing is the awareness that you’re on the path to rebuild a healthier microbiome. That’s really critical. You know, when you don’t get that in five minutes or 10 minutes, I mean, that’s just. Say it again.

Reena Jadhav:  How long does it take to heal someone from a leaky gut or to heal a leaky gut?

Dr. Tom: Realistically? Uh, you can see changes on repeat testing within two months, two to three months. But if they, if they don’t continue the process, it’ll come back. We’ll come back again. You can’t go back to the old way of living this whole thing about going upstream. You have to figure out what fell in the river and make sure that you don’t go down that river again. You just can’t do that. But in terms of the nutrients that help heal intestinal permeability, there are many, there are many good studies and what I’m about to tell you is by no means exclusive, these are just the ones that have a whole lot of studies behind them and they work in unison really well. So the first is vitamin D, if you think of intestinal permeability, intestinal permeability is like the Panama Canal that the gate’s open into the lumen and food comes in the gates, close, the immune system checks out.

Dr. Tom: What is this thing coming in here? Then the back gates open, the food goes further down than those gates close the immune system checks again. What is this thing? And it’s an opening and closing of a number of um, uh, Gates for food and nutrients to come through the walls of the intestine, into the bloodstream, through the cheese cloth and getting in there. Vitamin D controls the opening and closing of the gates. So that’s why vitamin D is so important. And for taking vitamin D to help with intestinal permeability, you don’t want to take the liquids that absorb under your tongue. Those are really good for systemic vitamin D, but you want the capsules or the tablets, they go down in the gut because that’s where he wanted the vitamin D is in the gut to help with the intestinal permeability. Now, the liquid vitamin D, I recommended a lot.

Dr. Tom: It’s called mycellized because it’s absorbed much better for systemic health and every tissue in your body needs vitamin D, so in general, that’s a more comprehensive form to take, but for healing the gut, you want the capsules or the tablets to get down there. Vitamin D, the next is the active ingredient in the spice tumeric is called Curcumin, and curcumin is the most potent natural anti inflammatory that I’ve ever seen. There are hundreds and hundreds of studies on it, and it turns on genes that vitamin D does not. So curcumin. The next is fish oils. The good fats from fish, uh, EPA, Dha, they are anti-inflammatory. They calmed down the fire in the gut and they stimulate the immune system to a heal the intestinal permeability. The next is zinc carnosine, zinc carnosine that are 18 different, different types of zinc. Zinc carnosine is the that has great benefits for your gastrointestinal track to help heal damaged gastrointestinal tracks.

Dr. Tom: The next and the biggest Kahuna is colostrum. Colostrum is the first three days of Mother’s breast. Milk is not. Milk is cholesterol. Cholesterol is the one that turns on all the genes in the gut that says, close intestinal permeability, build the receptors for the good bacteria so that all that good bacteria can lock in on the lighting, inside lining of the gut, and then colonize and build nice strong families of good bacteria. Colostrum does all of that, and there’s one type of colostrum that, uh, uh, is head and shoulders the best that I’ve ever found. My friend, Dr Andrew Keech was born and raised on a dairy farm in New Zealand and he learned really quick. If you don’t feed these caps, colostrum, they die within a week. They die. You can’t give them milk. Then he learned that humans that were sick, if they took cholesterol, they got better.

Dr. Tom: So he decided he was going to dedicate his life to making the best colostrum in the world. He went to Oxford and got a phd in mechanical and Chemical Engineering and I said, Andrew, I get it, Oxford, Phd, way to go, man, high five way to go, but mechanical engineering, what? Why? And he said, well Tom, I knew I was going to make the best colostrum in the world and no one knows how to do it, so I was going to have to learn how to build the equipment to do it. So he spent eight years to do this. His cholesterol is so good. Three governments in Africa, three countries in Africa licensed his cholesterol as the first treatment of choice that they pay for when somebody is diagnosed with HIV, that’s the same color. It’s on my website. It’s called gs restore and it restores your immune system, so if there’s only one thing you’re going to take to heal the gut, along with the pre and the probiotics and stopped the foods that are throwing gasoline on the fire. It’s that colostrum. There’s nothing like it on the planet.

Reena Jadhav:  Interesting you say that because I took the silver and labs for about a year. Yeah, and I wasn’t aware that there was a better formula, so I’m definitely gonna check that out and it’s not something I’ve taken in a while. So I think it’s time for me to kind of do a maintenance, a dosage of it and to take that on an empty stomach. Am I right?

Dr. Tom: No, no, you don’t have to. Nope, not at all. My, my wife makes a smoothie out of it. She puts it in our smoothie drink with our vegetables and stuff, so it’s great for that. She also does sometimes play just with some water and a little hand mixer and she put some applesauce. Oh, that’s the other thing. I almost to heal the gut. Uh, in England, this is from my friends, Dr Michael Ash and Antony Haynes in London. They call it stewed apples. I call it applesauce. So you take some apples. I take four or five apples organic a, wash them off, you know, but, but leave the skins on a cut, dice them up, throw the seeds away, and you dice them up and throw them in a pot, add water about a third. The height of the apples go some cinnamon in, bring it to a boil, let it boil in about five minutes, six minutes, something like that.

Dr. Tom: You look in there and when you see a shine on the skin, when starting to shine, turn it off. You’re done. The shine. You’re releasing the Pectin from the apples. Now, Pectin, when you eat, packed in, it increases a really good guy and your gut called intestinal alkaline phosphatase. I A P and intestinal alkaline phosphatase is really good guide for you because it prevents the bad bacteria from getting into your gut. It’s stimulates healing the healing genes to repair intestinal permeability. It feeds the good bacteria, so my patients have two tablespoons a day, and if you’re a 200 pound person, you have four tablespoons a day. You know it’s not specific the amount, but you don’t need to eat a big bowl, but every day you just have a couple spoons full of applesauce and another little piece of the puzzle that you’re turning the genes on to heal, reduce inflammation, and rebuild a healthier microbiome.

Reena Jadhav: Simple, easy to do things which are grandparents or ancestors, applesauce, apples, apples,

Dr. Tom: an apple a day, an apple a day keeps water away. This is why, because it heals intestinal permeability. It increases intestinal alkaline phosphatase and heals intestinal permeability. That’s the mechanism.

Reena Jadhav: Now we have the answer to why an apple a day in addition to healing the leaky gut. Autoimmune has a lot more components to it. What else do we need to be on the lookout for? What else can we do?

Dr. Tom: The most important thing you know in, in this short time that we have together, if you give me 10 hours, you know, but the, the most important thing that you can do is embrace the understanding is going to take you six months to learn at one hour a week, just one hour a week or one hour a day. You know, whatever you can allocate, but just one hour to go back upstream and look at all of the different things that are throwing gasoline on the fire of your life. We talked about air plastics, we talked about, you know, anyone whose life was saved by sleeping under flame retardant bedding,

Dr. Tom: but we breathe that stuff in every night, every night and you’re breathing so you can’t tell, but you know, or like when when you’re pumping gas, sometimes you’re standing there and you can smell the gas that’s benzene. Benzene is a neurotoxin to your brain and we just stand. There were spelling the gas, you know, while it’s going. So what do you do? What? You’re downwind, walk around to the other side of the hose and now you’re upwind and you don’t smell it anymore. What is going to take you months to start thinking like that. You don’t have to start a regular way, but well, what am I smelling? It’s going to take months to train yourself to think differently, how to be kind to yourself and take care of this body. That’s the most important thing. If you can embrace the idea, win the ball game. I want to learn new base hits every week, just a couple of base hits in six months to a year. You’ve got this down. You’ve got it down.

Reena Jadhav:  I love how you say it’s reframing the context and listening to you. I’m thinking you’re almost saying, get on the defensive. Defend Yourself.

Dr. Tom: You are under attack. You know exactly what I’ve never thought of it that way, but we are.

Reena Jadhav:  I didn’t think of it until listening to them saying, wait a minute. We’re under attack from the water. We drank to the air. We breathe to the things we watched. By the way, maybe we talked about that yet. The emotional upheaval that when we bought stuff that’s being displayed on television to the clothes we put onto the makeup we wear to the food we eat to the drinks, all of it is actually attacking us.

Dr. Tom: That’s right. That’s exactly right. Let me give you one more example if I may. One more. The most common autoimmune disease is thyroid dysfunction and Hashimoto’s, and it’s nine times more common in women than men and all of that. Mrs. Patient, when you’re on the elevator of a hotel, when the elevator doors open, can you tell the swimming pools on that floor right away and so many people say, oh, yes, yes, you’re sensitive. The chlorine, you’re smelling the chlorine. Now, why is that important? Because there are three chemicals. The way our hormones work or traveling in the bloodstream, hormones are in the bloodstream and they go buy a cell and there’s a receptor site on the cell facing out into the bloodstream. The receptor site is like a catcher’s Mitt, and the pitcher throws the ball to the catcher. There are receptor sites for every hormone, so estrogen goes into an estrogen receptor site.

Dr. Tom: It won’t go into a thyroid receptor site. Testosterone goes into a testosterone receptor site. It won’t go into an estrogen receptor site, so all the hormones have receptors on the outside the cell facing the bloodstream. There’s only two substances for which there are receptor sites on every cell of your body. There’s only two substances as far as I know. There’s only two. One is vitamin D as how important vitamin D is to every cell of your body, and we’ll have a session on vitamin D in the future. The other is thyroid, thyroid hormone. Every cell in your body needs thyroid hormone. Why? Because thyroid hormone is the thermostat on the wall of every cell of your body is determining how hot that so words that’s called your metabolism and just like in your house, you turn the temperature down at night while you’re sleeping to save fuel, and then it automatically turns back up in the morning before it gets up.

Dr. Tom: That’s your thyroid hormone, so people that have thyroid imbalances, they’d got cold hands and feet. They some wear socks to bed, they feel sluggish, they’re chilled. Often they can’t lose weight. Even if they don’t eat for two or three days, they can’t lose weight and those are thyroid type symptoms. There are many, many symptoms of thyroid, but it’s because the thermostats turned down. Now there are three chemicals that sit in thyroid receptor sites they’re attracted to and they sit in thyroid receptor sites and they don’t break down and go away. They just sit there and if you’ve got these chemicals sitting in the thyroid receptor site, when thyroid hormone comes by, it’s like the pitcher throws a fastball to the catcher, but he’s got three baseballs into his glove fastball just bounces back out. These are people that have blood tests for thyroid hormone. It’s normal, but they’ve got all thyroid symptoms.

Dr. Tom: It’s because the thyroid hormone is not getting in the smell. It’s not getting the cell because the cells are all blocked up. Could you smell chlorine? Oh yeah. I smell chlorine. Well, that’s why it’s because those three chemicals are chlorine. Fluoride and me, bromines and breads, chlorine and bromine, so people that have any of those types of symptoms, they need chlorine shower filters because that’s where you get more chlorine than anywhere else is. You inhale it, the steam in the shower twice a day. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s an example of the environment and when you learn this and then you go on and you know you go, you go to whole foods or you go to consumer reports and look at the reports on chlorine shower filters and they’ll tell you which ones looked to be the best of which ones, how long they last, and you replace the filter you so they’re so easy to put on. You unscrew the shower head, you put the whole filter on there, then you through the shower head and the other side of it, it’s really easy. And then every six months I just changed the filter inside that unit. Easy to do, but. But that’s a base hit and when you do that, you’ll notice within a couple of weeks here, here, here, there’s a nice shine to it. Your skin feels softer because you’re not being exposed all that glory

Reena Jadhav:  that’s on my to do lists now for next week. That makes a lot of sense. The other two chemicals, fluoride, so that’s the toothpaste, has fluoride. We don’t need fluoride in our toothpaste. Do we? Dr Tom?

Dr. Tom: We do not. We do not. If you read the history of where fluoride came from, it was a garbage product from the chemical industry and someone had the bright idea, let’s see if we can put it in the toothpaste because I think it’s an antibacterial or so. Let’s try it. Let’s see if we can put in the toothpaste and in the water they put fluoride in the water also and it’s just. There is so much evidence how dangerous it is for us to have fluoride and chlorine. Now I’m not saying chlorine is not necessary and chlorine. Chlorine is necessary by all means, but then before the water gets to you and your family, you filter it out, so if you. If you can afford it, you get a whole house water filtration system, that means so all the sinks, when you’re brushing your teeth in the kitchen, the water you’re drinking and in the shower is all chlorine free.

Reena Jadhav:  No, that makes a shower filter. Dr Tom. Thank you. Thank you so much.




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